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Old 05-11-2011, 07:01 AM   #15
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Desertair,
The skin should cover the edge of the plywood, but it is just how it is put together at the factory. On my '72 the plywood on the street side is covered, but not the curb side. It looks to me that you have a fairly solid connection between the frame, sub floor and C-channel. It doesn't appear to have any sag from the pictures. If it were my trailer, I'd clean everything up really well, treat the wood with epoxy or spar varnish, use a good rust inhibiting/preventive coating like POR 15 or Eastwood for the frame, put it all back together and go camping. I started the repairs on Abby January 3rd and I'm just now getting to putting the interior back in. Removing and re installing the bathroom in one of these old girls is a lot of time consuming work.
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Old 05-11-2011, 07:33 AM   #16
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Should I raise the frame with my floorjack to line up the existing holes where the skin rivets to the metal c channel?I would think the rivets would rip through the skin.Or do I just rivet it back together where the two materials meet as in the pictures.I think the wood floor lined up with the upper skin at one point and time.
Thanks for your advice and keep up the good work!Abby looks fantastic and I really enjoy reading up on your progress with her.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:18 AM   #17
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Desertair,
Jacking up the frame to level is a good idea. I recommend you use a closed end rivet to secure the skin to the C channel. Solid (buck) rivets are the best, but you don't have access to the back side. You could also use some self drilling/tapping screws from the bottom to secure the wood to the C channel. When you have the exterior skin, the C channel, the sub floor and the frame all securely fastened together, you are winning!
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I am under the impression the fix for this involves braces inside and patches on the outside ("elephant ears"). At the factory I have read they don't do the inside braces unless you insist. I only know anything from reading some posts and have no actual knowledge, but if it separated I would think you have to repair it in a manner that makes it stronger than the original way it was built.

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Old 05-19-2011, 04:53 PM   #19
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Hey Gene,
I heard the elephant ears fix was a temporary fix at best.
I've been working on treating any rust on my frame with the por-15 and I found some spar varnish in a spray can and I'm treating the bottom side and edges of the flooring with 3 coats.I've got some closed end rivets on the way from fastenal along with some assorted solid rivets (buck rivets) to play with.I'm really close to reattaching the outer skin to the C channel.I've tightened the 3/8 bolts that hold flooring to the C channel and that all looks good.
My question for today is after removing the insulation that is between the belly pan and flooring,which didn't look bad at all.Should I replace it with some stryofoam insulation or is there a material of choice.Hot desert climate with mostly mild winters here where I'm at.
I'll include some pictures on the next post.
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Desertair,
There are many options and opinions when it comes to insulation. Check out this thread that was started by Zep and continued on by BoatDoc. It gets really technical. I used two layers of 1" Dow Tuff-R polyiso on the underside of the flooring on my '72. I chose that just because there are a few restorers that use it. It is expensive and hard to find. I had holes that were about six inches in diameter in the floor, so she'll be a lot better off. You only have a small ammount to insulate so, some good styrofoam or the fiberglass stuff will be just fine I believe.
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Sometimes JC only uses the elephant ears unless you complain according to what I have heard. Interior braces should be installed plus an exterior fix.

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rear end damage due dolly wheels

I finally got around to cutting off the dolly wheels mounts.Talk about overkill on the mounts.Whoever welded these stupid things on really overdid it with the 1/2 and 3/8 inch plate they welded to the frame which is only 1/8 to 3/16 thick.It only took me a good 3 hours of work to finally get them cut off the frame with a hand held grinder with a 6 in cutting wheel installed.103 here in Texas today what a great day to lay in the sun and grind.[ATTACH][ATTACH]
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Afterwards.
Not perfect but much better.All it needs now is the blue plastic insert.
Time for a silver bullet.
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Wow. Good work!
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Nice work. Looks great.
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Wow what a biaaach! Looks good now, hope you had more than just one beer!
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Wow what a biaaach! Looks good now, hope you had more than just one beer!
Thanks guys, it was a bitch but all worth it when I was done.it was a good 3 beer day of work on the AS!
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Nice work. Looks great.
Thanks Top! What's your next project on Abby?
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