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Old 09-22-2006, 11:37 PM   #21
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interesting factoid...

using the 50lbs per cubic ft assumption of wood, for a sheet of ply to be about the same weight as this 1" honeycomb the wood would need to be between 1/4" and 5/16"
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I've been a woodworking hobbyist much longer than an alumihead. Glue in any sort of flat product is denser than wood, so density is usually greater with ply than solid of the same species. And of course OSB or chip board has much more glue and gets very heavy.

This sounds like an interesting project! Please keep us filled in.
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Congratulations! It sounds like great material.

Are you are going to use adhesives to put it down, instead of poking lots of screw holes through it.
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:31 PM   #24
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hmm no glue probably

I'm starting to think about using fasteners that show or are capped in some "airstream looking" way.

i fell asleep last night thinking about a nice bright Marmoleum floor decorated by clean oversized rivets! been looking around at hardware this afternoon, it might not be rivets i used, but something with a smooth domed head showing.

this is also could be part of a way to address the bi metal issue, it could be used to isolate the aluminum floor from steel connection hardware, i an working on a drafting that explains I'll post it soon
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:33 PM   #25
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i would like to find a way to really showcase or bring attention to the fact that my floor is different. I already think i will include some spot in the trailer that shows a cut away for folks to check out.
a few more thought around that theme make me ponder what connection hardware would be best as i mentioned in the last post.
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:18 AM   #26
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Old 09-24-2006, 09:03 AM   #27
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thanks Aerowood, great info, i was planning on asking the company that made mine what they recommended for full thickness connections, seems like you probably already answered that one!
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artist's perspective

I am not a mechanical expert and won't comment on that aspect of this interesting material, but when you mentioned you were thinking of ways to highlight the material so it showed in the finished floor, it gave me the idea of possibly cutting thin, say 1" strips of it, turning it on its side and laying the strip into the floor with the honeycomb exposed at regular intervals or in a pattern.

That presents a problem with it collecting dirt...so maybe you could fill the strips in with an epoxy, something clear or colored? Could be a very cool look.

good luck, krista
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:09 PM   #29
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I am not a mechanical expert and won't comment on that aspect of this interesting material, but when you mentioned you were thinking of ways to highlight the material so it showed in the finished floor, it gave me the idea of possibly cutting thin, say 1" strips of it, turning it on its side and laying the strip into the floor with the honeycomb exposed at regular intervals or in a pattern.

That presents a problem with it collecting dirt...so maybe you could fill the strips in with an epoxy, something clear or colored? Could be a very cool look.

good luck, krista
kinda a neat idea, but sadly this must be kept as whole sheets to be strong i would guess, the honey comb is actually very bendable and has its strength from the full structure. i can see a counter made from it that could have a good clear t part resin to cap the exposed edges.... hmmm thoughts abound
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Rivka; Let me know what happens when you accidentally drop a frying pan or cast iron pot or even a sharp knife that might land pointy end down on the floor. I'ld be interested to know. Nice to hear you have all the tools to do the job. Good Luck Tim
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Old 09-24-2006, 10:18 PM   #31
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Rivka; Let me know what happens when you accidentally drop a frying pan or cast iron pot or even a sharp knife that might land pointy end down on the floor. I'ld be interested to know. Nice to hear you have all the tools to do the job. Good Luck Tim

yes that is a thought, a pessimistic one , but a thought nun the less.

thankfully this is a trail and one i am working to keep light, so no cast iron for me thank you. and the knife thing?... i will assume that with the great Marnolium i am planning to put down , it would be this layer, that i would worry about. Same as everyone else in their trailers. and the frying pan, not that i cook much, but when i do i'll make sure to have a good grip and keep the butter off my hands!
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seeing as you're going down this avenue, I wouls recommend the West Systems book they offer on epoxy use.also you might want to look at Advanced Composite Techniques/ Smith. For structural bonding Hysol works extremely well. Sorry about the pessimistic view but the stuff I build fly's, gotta look at all the goods and bads. Truly tho I wish you the best. Wanna Sell a half sheet and send it to me?? You are quite ambitious for a 74 yr. old!!! Tim
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Old 09-24-2006, 10:48 PM   #33
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Wanna Sell a half sheet and send it to me?? You are quite ambitious for a 74 yr. old!!! Tim
after so much na saying, what do you want a half sheet for? jk
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ps, im not 74 i was made in '74
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Careful 'Gunner, I think that was a Date of Birth of '74, not 74 years old!! But then maybe you knew that and was just messin' with 'er.
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I wanna make a semi eliptical dinnette table. And I WAS NOT nay saying just speaking from my experience with the stuff. Sorry bout the age thing, I'm old enough to be your dad! Tim
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I wanna make a semi eliptical dinnette table. And I WAS NOT nay saying just speaking from my experience with the stuff. Sorry bout the age thing, I'm old enough to be your dad! Tim
Tim, relax, i was just poking at you. and no worries about the age thing or anything else, I'm a girl with a think skin and a twisted sense of humor at times.

as for reselling some, since this is the only sheets of this i ever expect to get my hands on, i am going to wait till my project is done before selling the extra. Wish i could have bought 3 times as much and passed the chance onto others. i will keep checking in on boeing surplus like i always do and if it ever comes in again i will buy it right away and offer it at cost to the forums.
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hi rivka,

did you ever get that honeycomb put in? how's it working out? i'd love to learn from your experience.

happy holidays!
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Somehow i think i know the answer to your question. This thread, if you check the dates, lasted all of 3 days and dried up.
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