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Old 09-14-2003, 10:02 PM   #71
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........some things to have handy:....eye wash-bandaids-splinter tweezers-butterfly closures.....'cuz you never learned to swear real good until you redue an Airstream!....geof
Nah I have worked on Volkswagons after they went to water cooling. I'm going to hell from the times I worked on my Mom's Jetta. I invented quite a few new cuss words replacing a timming belt. Few more when I put a transmission in it. Haven't got that mad at the Airstream yet.
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Suggestion: The drain in the shower is a single piece that screws into the cast iron P-trap. Cross two screwdrivers in the x at the bottom of the drain and it will screw right out.
I thought mine was a two piece, with a threaded bezel onto a brass tailpiece. I had cut most of the way through the bezel when my Dremel tool broke. Tried to drift it out, finally used a chisel. Only when I got it lose did I discover it was a single piece.
Ok It attaches from the top. I was getting ready to go under it to see if it had a nut from the bottom. I'll try that and see how it goes.
Thanks for the tip.
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I spent a very enjoyable day grinding off the bolts that hold the floor channel to the floor. Finally got then all out. The ones at the very back had corroded completely through the channel, so that needs to be replaced.
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Old 09-15-2003, 07:14 AM   #74
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I spent a very enjoyable day grinding off the bolts that hold the floor channel to the floor. Finally got then all out. The ones at the very back had corroded completely through the channel, so that needs to be replaced.
Somebody in another post had memtioned cutting a peice of plate 4-6 inches long for the corner area to spread the load. That made sense to me. If the trailer is twisting the corners would take the biggest load.
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Old 09-21-2003, 08:51 PM   #75
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Well here is my update.

Finished pulling the furnature this weekend. Removed the plumbing, toilet, blackwater and freash water.

I had heard many of these coaches had a galvanized freash water tank. Ours is aluminum. Looks in real good shape as well. The foor under it was a different story but what else is new. LOL

I also found out that our Gouch slides out. Coach has been in my wifes family 23 years and she never new. The fold up dinnette we thought was factory was not. It would not alow the Gouch to slide out. A very easy modification and It will work with the Dinnette. I had planned to make it slide out so we could use a Futon. Airstream beat me to it. LOL

Ok looks like We will be drilling rivets this week after work. With luck the body will be off Sunday afternoon.

How is everybody doing on theirs? Saw Greg has the floor up and found some frame problems.


Here is a shot to show how bad the floor rot was under the black water tank. If you look close you can see the tank. It rotted the belly pan off as well. Some cross member damage in the back. Fraim rail looks ok so far. As long as the top is ok I'm good to go.
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Yeah, you got it bad. Regarding the front floor under the aluminum water tank: I thought it was just a minor floor softness until I got the belly skin off and found the frame under the water tank drain was pretty well pitted. I'll need to replace that part. The rest of my frame is in great shape, except the very rear crossmember which is rusted pretty bad.
I discovered a pretty neat way to remove the floor. Forget grinding the nuts off from below, or drilling the head off from above. I will PM the details if you're interested.
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How much of a fight was lifting the body? estimated weight?

Post up this trick to get the deck up. I was going to use a cut off wheel on my die grinder.

I'm hoping to find our frame is in as good of shape. I know I have some issues under the bath. From is real bad under one end of the tank. Hope I get lucky there. Looking at the bottom I think I have a light bow in the frame from the axle back. Have to get my buddies accetalin over hear and put the heat to it and true it up if it is. There is already a 3ft length of 2x2 under the frame that the spring mounts on. I may cut that off and make it about 6ft long. Weight penalty won't be too bad and it's down low.
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Getting the body off is easy, IF you build a nice sturdy base to lift from. I did it alone with no help. Build base frame of 2x4s with 1x3 and 1x2 bracing. Lift slowly so not to twist.
After I lowered it I staked it with 3 ft long stakes.
Floor removal follows in next post.
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Steps for floor removal:
1. Use chalk line to mark the crossmembers and the 1 inch angle in the center. Only mark the first two full width sections.
2. Set your circular saw to just less than the plywood thickness. Cut just outside the crossmembers.
3. Finish opening the cuts with a Sawzall.
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4. Mark the location of the screws.
5. Chop the plywood off just to the side of the screws. I used a 10 tooth hacksaw blade, works OK for sawing short distances in plywood.
6. Turn the recip. saw sidways and saw through the screw.

Nice thing about this method is you end up with a nice stack of plywood ready to haul to the dump.

OOPS-forgot to mention: before I started, I dimensioned EVERYTHING to the nearest 1/8th inch.
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Nice tip. That will make things easier.

I had originaly wanted to get the ply wood off in one peice to use it as a templet. Not enough of it left to bother LOL. Its's all patched in down the center Rotted out on both curside corners. I think I can get the street side corner off at each end in one peice and use it for the radius.
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Corner template

I measured everyting carefully and this is what I found:
The corner radii were all slightly different.
The nearest i could determine, the front corners were 22" radius, and the rear were 22 1/2". Hard to believe they were that similar, but not the same.
I'm thinking about a single sheet of plastic for the floor under the bathroom, the rest edge-epoxied plywood. What do you think?
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A weight calculator to give you a rough estimate of what you are dealing with. The motor homes are different than the trailers, but it was probably worse breaking it loose than actually lifting it (but I did use a backhoe so that might have helped).

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I measured everyting carefully and this is what I found:
The corner radii were all slightly different.
The nearest i could determine, the front corners were 22" radius, and the rear were 22 1/2". Hard to believe they were that similar, but not the same.
I'm thinking about a single sheet of plastic for the floor under the bathroom, the rest edge-epoxied plywood. What do you think?
I'm thinking of something simular. Under the bath I was going to use a roofing membrane. It has adheasive on one side. They use it in Valley's and where ice daming is a problem. Nails and screws will seal where they pass through it.

I was going to put down a solid sheet flooring that is a pure vinyl with no backing. Just glue down around the edges. That will let it give when the coach flexes without tearing. Still deciding on that. It should form a gasket of sorts where furnature is screwed down over it. Should cost under $100 to do the whole floor. No seams for water to get into. Iwill still seal the wood.

What product are you going to use to seal the wood?

Somebody had menetioned a epoxy sealer used in boats. It lets the wood breath some, minimal outgasing, water proof. I think the post was lost with the forum crash. I have been looking for it with no luck.

In the living areas we are pretty set on a laminate flooring. That will get installed over the sheet vinyl.
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