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Old 01-17-2009, 10:39 PM   #15
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Ask the guy with the machine shop to have a look. There is a lot of rust out under there. It may be easier to make a whole new frame. It's hard to say for sure without seeing it.

It may be cheaper and better to scrap the trailer and buy a better one.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:52 PM   #16
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Ok last try...
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:26 AM   #17
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It may be cheaper and better to scrap the trailer and buy a better one.
I do not agree with that. 1960 is a VERY cool year and in the end it will all be worth it.
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Old 01-18-2009, 05:54 AM   #18
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Wow, never scrap an old girl, for you see, I'm an old sentimental fool. The new pictures are actually more encouraging that the others. It appears that the main frame is intact and may just need some outriggers. Find someone with experience to inspect the frame if you are apprehensive and then paint it and move forward. Certainly, the welder you have found is qualified, as most folks involved in racing understand framing and cage building.
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:47 AM   #19
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I agree No scrapping her...Unless He meant the frame then maybe....well I'm meeting with the welder today I'm taking him Pics He says if he can he will swing by for an visual estimate aftarwards...lets hope we can salvage this one....

On another note I was looking up some previous post on taking the shell off...I was thinking I'm already 90 percent there why not go all the way, but i'm kinda nervous on putting it up on saw horse's. I guess what I'm getting at is what percentage of you guys think I should go for it?

It would make things alot easier I guess..... oh should I wait till I have it up in the air to make a template of the radius for the floor or do it before taking it off the frame....there's really not much holding it on anyway. three of the steel angle Iron marking the spot for the shell only have one rusted through bolt barely holding it down..
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:06 AM   #20
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Has everyone seen the film on Youtube that shows how Airstream built their trailers in the 80s?

They made the floor first, then built the fusilage on the floor, then swung the complete fusilage onto the frame.

Then, they install the wiring, insulation, floor covering, cabinets, furniture and appliances.

This suggests to me that if you are going to do a complete frame off resto of an Airstream you should remove all the interior fittings then lift the fusilage off the frame as a complete unit WITHOUT removing the floor first.

Has anyone tried this?

In this particular case, now that the floor is out, it might be a good idea to install new floor boards, fastened to the body but not the frame, then lift the fusilage up and roll the frame out for repairs.

This way the fusilage can be set up on planks and blocks and worked on while the frame is being rebuilt.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:21 AM   #21
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Hey Augier, my frame was in slightly better condition than yours, but it wasn't great. I had a local welder replace the back three cross-members, and one outrigger. Looks like yours needs the same, and perhaps a few more outriggers. As noted by others, your main frame rails appear to be in decent shape, so I think your frame IS repairable.

You also need to figure out why the frame rusted and correct the causes, otherwise you are just treating symptoms which will return. The causes are obvious-- leaks. You need to find them.

Mine were a combination of roof leaks (all corrected before I acquired the trailer) and bathroom leaks. The water leaked in and around the outside and through the rear-bath floor, then got into the insulation and stayed there, rusting out the x-members.

Once you get the new steel in, you will need to prime with the etching primer that is made by the POR15 folks, called "Metal Ready." For the old steel all you need to do is wire-wheel and wire-brush the loose rust off. Then you can paint all of it together. Although I was very pleased with the POR15, keep in mind that there are other systems for frame painting as well, 62Overlander mentioned above the system he used, and he was very happy with it.

For more details on the repairs I made to mine, you can check my blog, linked in my signature below. You'll see that my frame did not look so different compared to yours.

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Old 01-19-2009, 11:23 AM   #22
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This suggests to me that if you are going to do a complete frame off resto of an Airstream you should remove all the interior fittings then lift the fusilage off the frame as a complete unit WITHOUT removing the floor first.

Has anyone tried this.
The main problem I see with this is that in many cases where a complete frame-off resto is required, the floor is splinters at best, and often nothing more than sawdust. Mine was missing huge chunks, and the rest flaked off in your hands easily, so I don't think I could have done it this way. Well, that and the fact that I don't have the facilities for a shell-off restoration.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:54 PM   #23
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Well Folks,
Good news ,very good news .....the frame is fixable, the Channel for the walls is being made and the outriggers are being made as well...I have to pick them up tomorrow afternoon......As far as the frame We are gonna cut the last 3feet off on the left and 2 feet on the rght then use whats called afish mouth to lljoin the new to the old.......new bumper is required can't find an OG looking one so I'm going with two round pipes with a bent radius around the end of it......I'll be posting pics up as soon as I start the work.....

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Old 01-23-2009, 09:20 PM   #24
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Getting started on welding

Hi there folks,
I have been working hard to figure of I can weld this on my own or have someone do it for me. I went to my busdy shop ( he builds motorcycles or choppers) he let me work with his welder on some scrap. I did what I knew he gave me some pointers then I got it right perfect welds I guess I did't forget after all well heres a pic of me welding the first of four crossmembers more pics coming some.....
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Old 01-24-2009, 04:00 AM   #25
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See, it wasn't so bad... all that freaking out over nothing... now you have something to tell around the fire.
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Old 01-24-2009, 05:47 PM   #26
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I can't offer much, but to tell you about a rust converter/sealer I used in the oil patch called OSPHO...it's green, watery, smells like sulfer! Brush it on after you have wirebrushed alot of the big rust off...use a throw way brush or spray bottle and cover it all up and over night it will convert to a form of iron (over my head)...but it will have a hazed look to it the next day and you can then paint it with a good oil paint...pretty good stuff and about 14 or so dollars a gallon depending where you get it. But I swear by it.
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:58 PM   #27
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Good Job!

Nice job Augier. Keep up the good work and keep the pictures coming.
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:10 PM   #28
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welding almost done

Hi there folks,
I'm almost done with all the welding just a few more spots and I'm reday for paint then the floor ........
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