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Old 09-09-2007, 12:26 PM   #1
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Freak accident w/pics and frame repair question

While pulled off I-80 to assist a friend with a flat tire, an 18 wheeler took a turn too tightlly, with the result that his back tires ran over the bumper on my 1964 Globetrotter. Nobody was hurt, and miraculously, no upper body aluminum was touched. She was still roadable with some tying and taping, and we arrived home from our trip last night.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what to ask for from the driver's insurance company? And more importantly, where does one go for frame and bumper repairs on a 43 year old trailer?

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Old 09-09-2007, 12:32 PM   #2
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Get in touch with Colin Hyde at GSM Vehicles Inc in Plattsburg NY.

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Old 09-09-2007, 12:33 PM   #3
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While pulled off I-80 to assist a friend with a flat tire, an 18 wheeler took a turn too tightlly, with the result that his back tires ran over the bumper on my 1964 Globetrotter. Nobody was hurt, and miraculously, no upper body aluminum was touched. She was still roadable with some tying and taping, and we arrived home from our trip last night.

Does anyone have any thoughts on what to ask for from the driver's insurance company? And more importantly, where does one go for frame and bumper repairs on a 43 year old trailer?

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First, OUCH. Second, since you are in Illinois, I would suggest the Factory in Jackson Center, OH. Obtain an estimate from the Factory and that is what should be paid. Don't let them total the trailer.

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Old 09-09-2007, 12:33 PM   #4
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Wow! That truck is completely off the road! He has to be the worst truck driver in the world.

Best of luck.
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:39 PM   #5
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First of - WOW - great photo of the sceen, no doubt about that one. I agree with the above post - get the AS Factory a try - they woulld be the experts. Do not let the insurance company to declare this trailer a total loss, much harder to sell that way if that ever happens.

Good Luck, looks like a nice trailer - I would want it back original.
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:20 PM   #6
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Be careful before you settle - thats not an easy fix - the frame has broken from the shell and floor - you will probably have to pull the interior cabinets and skin, weld a new piece in and reattach everything - nothing overly difficult, but will take a fair amount of time.

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Old 09-09-2007, 02:54 PM   #7
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THe factory will repair an older airstream as well. Colin wil probably do a better job.
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:42 PM   #8
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Be Prepared

Boy I hate doing this but here goes. As someone in the insurance industry I need to warn you that you are very likely going to have a problem with this claim. First - this is a third party claim so you are not dealing with your own carrier that wants to be sure to keep your business. Second - you are dealing with trucking insurance - it's a specialty coverage so you are not likely to be dealing with "good hands or good neighbors". (it is possible that a standard carrier has the coverage, we will do that sometimes - but you'll have to get real lucky).

If it is a trucking insurance carrier they will likely try settling this by phone. If they send an adjustor out it will usually be an independent (adjustor for hire). When this claim hits their desk they will see 1964 and the first thought is it'll be a total. You can not stop them from declaring the vehicle a total unless you want to take them to court or fight it out through the Insurance Commissioners Office - they have the right to do that if the repair costs exceed the trailers value. (they don't have to be nice about this - just pay you what the trailer is worth). If it's totaled and you settle, the trailer becomes theirs. They will likely offer to sell it back to you for the salvage value. You want to avoid transfering title to them, if they will play along, and then having it sold back to you - it will then have a salvage title.

Try to gather everything you can to support the highest value you can. Your original receipt for purchase (unless you got some great deal) and all the receipts for repairs and upgrades would help. Sales of similar items from Ebay and Craigslist if you can get them.....

Good Luck to you..!!!
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:52 PM   #9
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I'm so sorry this happened, the trucker must have been soooo excited to see a vintage Airstream he didn't watch where he was going. I almost do the same thing when I see one. My vote would be to get Colin to do it.
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:54 PM   #10
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did it just snap the bumper off the frame, or was the frame bent as well?
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Old 09-09-2007, 07:10 PM   #11
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Ouch, ouch, ouch...sorry, man. Good luck with getting it all figured out. You look more mellow in that last picture than I would be, I'm afraid! Let us knw what happens...

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Old 09-09-2007, 08:05 PM   #12
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did it just snap the bumper off the frame, or was the frame bent as well?
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In the additional photos you can see that the bumper is still attached to the frame. The frame now has a major bend / break somewhere behind the axel.
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:27 PM   #13
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Wow! Sorry for your mishap.

The above comments have convinced me to start documenting now, just in case!
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Old 09-09-2007, 08:32 PM   #14
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In the additional photos you can see that the bumper is still attached to the frame. The frame now has a major bend / break somewhere behind the axel.
ah yes... that does make it a bit more difficult. I would definitely talk to Colin. THe whole rear end's going to have to come out.

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