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09-09-2010, 08:11 PM
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Musicmaster I priced crossmembers and outriggers from factory at about $750 and had the main frame rails made by a friend for $150. Probably would have cost $400 for main rails by steel shop. A local welder quoted me $1000 to do all welding but got another friend to do it for free.
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09-09-2010, 11:35 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
rozenburg
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I live in Europe so can tell you the costs in Euro's. Material was 500 euro but without the outriggers, i ordered them in the usa, about 250 dollar. I had to pay 3000euro's including the welding and material so the welding about 2500 euro. The welder also removed and placed the axles.
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09-22-2010, 01:51 AM
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1974 31' Sovereign
rozenburg
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the new frame is being painted
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09-22-2010, 04:31 AM
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Hi QC1500 Excellent looking frame. It is eerily similiar looking to mine. I see you made all the crossmembers the same height. How do you intend to reinforce the seams where the floor sheets meet?
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09-22-2010, 06:55 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Texas Airstream Harbor
, Zavalla, in the Deep East Texas Piney Woods on Lake Sam Rayburn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wasagachris
...I see you made all the crossmembers the same height. How do you intend to reinforce the seams where the floor sheets meet?
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Must have been a design change between the '73 and the '74 model. The '74 frame (like my '78 frame) is dead flat all the way down from front to back. The seam joints were simply butted together over the appropriate cross member and elevator bolted into place over the cross member with no plywood doubling under the joints.
The '78 has a 1/2" plywood floor and a super light frame similar to qc1500's original.
Congrats to qc1500 and any others replacing their too light frame with a more robust model.
"...do it right the first time..."
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09-22-2010, 08:02 AM
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1974 31' Sovereign
rozenburg
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I kept it flat all the way. There is no problem to bolt the floor into place.
I changed a few other small things but most things are the same, only stronger.
Today i build in the citywater tank, and fits perfectly. Only the waterline was broken because of frost i think, and that size isn't available in Europe so i fixed it with a hose.
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09-22-2010, 01:11 PM
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2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
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That's a spectacular frame. I am jealous!
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10-24-2010, 12:17 PM
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1974 31' Sovereign
rozenburg
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11-04-2010, 11:11 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1974 31' Sovereign
rozenburg
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Shell is back on the frame
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11-04-2010, 11:35 AM
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2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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qc,
Tell us about the vents in the underbelly. I have been considering this, perhaps with a couple of 12V 4" computer muffin fans for forced air ventillation. How many did you install?
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11-04-2010, 11:54 AM
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1974 31' Sovereign
rozenburg
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I noticed that any water that could come in the underbelly, had no way out. So the frame had to rot...
First i will make sure that the change of water will be reduced to the minimum and hopefully none.
But at this way it can ventilate. The louvers are pointed backwards.
I placed one between every 2 crossmembers. I will place smaller ones at the left en right side of the bellypan. So i hope water will have no change to do damage again.
The vents have, i don't know who to call it in English but, stuff to keep insects away
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11-04-2010, 12:29 PM
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Thanks, that's clear.
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11-07-2010, 11:14 AM
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rozenburg
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you're welcome.
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11-17-2010, 09:50 AM
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1974 31' Sovereign
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Floor is back in.
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01-09-2011, 09:18 AM
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1974 31' Sovereign
rozenburg
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another small step
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01-17-2011, 02:47 PM
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It is getting together
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01-17-2011, 03:55 PM
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1966 24' Tradewind
Oak View
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The vents have, i don't know who to call it in English but, stuff to keep insects away
Screens?
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01-17-2011, 09:09 PM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
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Nice
Looking great QC.
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01-21-2011, 10:09 AM
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65th Anniversary CLIPPER
1996 36' Clipper Bus
Tub City
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Aluminum Frame
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The new frame is coming together, only a few more days of welding
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Nice work.
But I wonder why no one seems to make the frames with ALUMINUM?
The cost would not be that much more and the ability to carry more, or pull less weight, would be an advantage.
Shinning the underside would be a challenge though.
Dave
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01-22-2011, 12:24 AM
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1981 20' International
Shasta Lake City
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I don't what to look under my 72/31'
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