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Old 11-13-2008, 07:34 AM   #547
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OK, scrap the shower tank idea, re-thunk that one, and like you, don't think it's necessary. I will add a grey tank for the sink though. BTW, I plan to replace my patched and pitiful belly pan and the best source I can find has me using .040 X 102" X 14 ft. Does this sound OK, it is $16 a lin ft. I can use one piece as apposed to the two piece riveted arrangement it presently has.
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Old 11-13-2008, 09:14 AM   #548
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OK, finally found the threads that tell the story. Looks like I better go with .032.
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Old 11-14-2008, 08:39 AM   #549
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C Ray, Were you able to find the pictures on how I mounted the holding tank under the sink area? I could send additional information If you would like. Just a suggestion:: I had sound some aluminum sheets that were 4x8 feet at a scrap metal place in our location. They were coated white on one side and clear coated on the other side. I know the price of metals has gone up. However at the time I think I paid about $20 a sheet. I'd look around for some sheet metal scrap yards. Even if you have to travel a ways. Scrap places often have excellent materials. They were just over stock for some project. The .032 metal is a better choice. Are you able to include some pictures of your trailer and Project?
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:50 AM   #550
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thanks

I couldn't find any pictures of your grey tank installation. I am familiar with the area that your wife explained in your thread, “under the cupboard next to the refrigerator” any info you have would be helpful though; I haven’t designed a plumbing scheme yet, nor have I purchased the tank (where did you get yours?) I just received the 2354 Dometic refrigerator I bought on ebay…looks great. I have all major components now, new water heater, new refrig, new pump, (I am working on the heater) I think I will start my own “shell-off” thread and stop high-jacking yours. I am waiting to complete the inside framework before taking pictures.
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Old 11-19-2008, 11:21 AM   #551
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I couldn't find any pictures of your grey tank installation. I am familiar with the area that your wife explained in your thread, “under the cupboard next to the refrigerator” any info you have would be helpful though; I haven’t designed a plumbing scheme yet, nor have I purchased the tank (where did you get yours?) I just received the 2354 Dometic refrigerator I bought on ebay…looks great. I have all major components now, new water heater, new refrig, new pump, (I am working on the heater) I think I will start my own “shell-off” thread and stop high-jacking yours. I am waiting to complete the inside framework before taking pictures.
Yes, definitely, please start your own shell-off thread-- we'd love to see your pictures and your progress! You could start a blog, too, a lot of other Forum members have done that as well.

I've just begun a shell-on floor replacement for the rear section of my trailer, and will be updating my progress to my thread here, as well as my blog listed below.

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Old 11-20-2008, 08:20 AM   #552
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CRay, I'll take some new pictures and try and post them in a couple of days.
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:37 AM   #553
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Awakened too early today -- again (age?) -- and instead of Jacques Barzuns' final, massive tome for quiet reading I was back into this thread. Wow, Don (and CaddyGrn), I really appreciate the time taken on explanations, the thinking-through -- out loud -- of your endeavor! The photo's, diagrams and all were great.

Allow me to ask about the insulation, the Duraflex/Reflectix combination. In an earlier post you indicated a cost of around $450 ($28-$30/ft), how good a job do you think it has done? As well, any indications about condensation abatement? FWIW, Silver Streak used to install vents all along the exterior, lower half of the trailer exterior walls, but the SS guru, the late Bob Ashby felt that they were better off sealed by the present owner.

Yours is the first thread where I've seen someone re-apply Zolatone. Love that stuff, I worked several jobs for a friend who was overwhelmed by demand for his first-rate work with this product. You are right about that stuff going everywhere, I have never -- prior to those jobs -- spent days and days and days masking off the job site. Seemed to take a full work day to remove the masking & tape afterwards. I soaked up his stories about the stuff being regularly spec'd for hospitals and prisons as it is so tough, yet easy to clean. A good choice by Airstream.

Also, how has the noise of the A/C unit worked out? Did you use any products to reduce the vibration of the unit? I haven't had a house yet that the appliances didn't benefit by my fitting sound-deadening on booming sheet metal panels, and vibration-reduction pads under the feet, even on concrete. As well, the ducting.

Did the aftermarket power steering give some better feedback on the Ford? I have also benefitted by using coil-over shock absorber-type units on the steering rack on a non-IFS vehicle, even with bolt-on mounts. Seemed to deaden it a little, but things were more "predictable".

Thanks again for the thread, (and your conversations with others that really lent depth; I have several other threads to read now), and I hope that teeny trailer is on its way to the age 105 reunion!
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:57 AM   #554
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Awakened too early today -- again (age?) -- and instead of Jacques Barzuns' final, massive tome for quiet reading I was back into this thread. Wow, Don (and CaddyGrn), I really appreciate the time taken on explanations, the thinking-through -- out loud -- of your endeavor! The photo's, diagrams and all were great.

REDNAX, Thanks for all the positive comments and interest in our Bambi project. I assume the link to the Silverstrean page is your trailer or trailer interest. I've only been able to look up close to one once so far. They look like great trailers.
Allow me to ask about the insulation, the Duraflex/Reflectix combination. In an earlier post you indicated a cost of around $450 ($28-$30/ft), how good a job do you think it has done? As well, any indications about condensation abatement? FWIW, Silver Streak used to install vents all along the exterior, lower half of the trailer exterior walls, but the SS guru, the late Bob Ashby felt that they were better off sealed by the present owner.

The insulation on the trailer has worked out good so far. We have had no problems on condensation to date. It might be because we always leave the top vent window open a little whenever we are camping. The refer and the way it was originally installed in the back of the trailer,"in my belief", would not be safe to sleep in a totally enclosed trailer. We have been in 115 degree to 20 degree weather so far. In the 115 weather the inside of the trailer with the air on was 90. At night it got down to the low 80's. So it was liveable. The original heater keeps the inside very warm in the lowest of temps. We also use insulite, a backpacking material, along the outsides of the sleeping areas to protect form the cold metal. This also works great.
Yours is the first thread where I've seen someone re-apply Zolatone. Love that stuff, I worked several jobs for a friend who was overwhelmed by demand for his first-rate work with this product. You are right about that stuff going everywhere, I have never -- prior to those jobs -- spent days and days and days masking off the job site. Seemed to take a full work day to remove the masking & tape afterwards. I soaked up his stories about the stuff being regularly spec'd for hospitals and prisons as it is so tough, yet easy to clean. A good choice by Airstream.

Zolatone is a great product. We have always recieved great comments on the interior because of the Zolatome. I'm glad we took the time to redo it. Maintenance has been so simple. I will use it on the 55 Flying Cloud we are working toward redoing. I'm sold on it. I think I might look for an empty football field to do the spraying in though.
Also, how has the noise of the A/C unit worked out? Did you use any products to reduce the vibration of the unit? I haven't had a house yet that the appliances didn't benefit by my fitting sound-deadening on booming sheet metal panels, and vibration-reduction pads under the feet, even on concrete. As well, the ducting.

I didn't do anything special for vibration insulation on the airconditioner. In our area and camping conditions we have only used the airconditioner a few times. I don't think I will mount the unit in the Flying Cloud on the floor however. Or I might figure out some venting system to get the cold are up.

Did the aftermarket power steering give some better feedback on the Ford? I have also benefitted by using coil-over shock absorber-type units on the steering rack on a non-IFS vehicle, even with bolt-on mounts. Seemed to deaden it a little, but things were more "predictable".

I can not say enough about the power steering addition to our 68 ford. It use to require full time steering and driving with the manual system. The truck is now easer to steer than our 95 Cadillac. And the truck is now a pure pleasure to drive. I love it!!! The anti sway friction device also has made a great improvement. I can drive the truck and trailer with two fingers.

I'm not sure if I had mentioned this change in this thread. I made a major change in the engine etc. with this truck. The original was a 300 streight six. It was underpowered, tired, and only got 11mpg. at 55 mph. I decided to put in a 5L EFI from a 93 Bronco. I used the engine, electric harnesses, gas tank, computers, bucket seats, etc. At 55mph without the trailer we now get 22mpg. I was very supprised. Towing the trailer on the freeway at 55 we get 14/15mpg. The worst ever was towing the trailer up and down steep grades on old Hwy 49 in the gold country. Mostley in second gear. 10mpg. I guess you can tell I'm vintage streammer forever.
Thanks again for the interest.
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Thanks again for the thread, (and your conversations with others that really lent depth; I have several other threads to read now), and I hope that teeny trailer is on its way to the age 105 reunion!
Hope to see ya on the road sometime.
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:31 PM   #555
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Thanks for answering all my questions, Don, I really like that rig, and now the "picture" is complete what with the experience with usage.

As to the Ford, glad to see you went all the way on drivetrain and steering; you've the best of both worlds.
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Old 01-14-2009, 09:38 AM   #556
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Problem?

Anyone else noticed this lately. I went out into the garage yesterday to check on the Bambi. When I was out there I noticed that the Bambi seemed really restless!
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Old 01-14-2009, 10:21 AM   #557
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Yea I noticed the same thing - had to pour some Jim Beam in its tanks just to calm it a bit - takes the edge off...

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Old 01-14-2009, 11:13 AM   #558
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Anyone else noticed this lately. I went out into the garage yesterday to check on the Bambi. When I was out there I noticed that the Bambi seemed really restless!
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Don, you are right. I was trying to figure out what was wrong with the 'Cloud. It seemed to be really depressed. I turned some lights on and off, shuffled my books around, drank a tea at the dinette and listened to the radio for a bit and it seemed to help. Now that you say it though I think you are right, it is restless. Maybe I'll move it forward and back a bit just to let it know I'm thinking about it.

Ken, I'm afraid some JB in my trailers tank would cause me to spend far too much time in the trailer and my wife would start thinking I had a problem (not that I don't but......). However, that said, maybe I could put it in a glass and take care of it on behalf of the 'Cloud.

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Old 01-14-2009, 11:18 AM   #559
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I think you need to share with the Airstream - they do get a bit aggressive....especially as winter gets long and cold :-)

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Old 01-15-2009, 01:18 AM   #560
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Hummmm,

This is the "other half" here.... it seems the Bambi is "restless", but Don, not so much. We keep a small heater on during the winter in our Bambi just to keep her "comfortable". I am sure Don went out there, gone quite a long time, and he did look "rested" when he returned. I would bet money he had a little nap in the "restless" Bambi!

Any of you other "half" people notice similar behavior with your spouse?

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