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Old 05-06-2006, 08:53 AM   #295
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Bypass question

I usually completely drain all the water from the trailer after every use. In the other SOBs I've owned they have never had a bypass that I was aware of. Is this a special items in Airstreams? Or have I just been out of the loop? Would appreciate any discussion on the subject.
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Would it be possible for you to send me a picture or two?
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Here's a picture:http://www.airforums.com/forums/222976-post5.html
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Old 05-06-2006, 01:31 PM   #297
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My tank is 55" +/- a little to 10" in diameter. Is your tank a pressure tank?
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P.S. the bad news is that while air pressure testing my water storage tank I have discovered a pin hole leak. Anyone have a good galvanized tank that wont to get rid of?

Don,

I also had a pinhole leak. Discovered when I was just about to pull out for a trip up the CA coast from Southern CA. I had just installed my wood flooring and finished the new goucho when the flood occured. With the help of a good friend and my very tall brother-in-law, it was pulled out. Raced around trying to find a welder to no avail. Finally thought to call "my son the plumber". He said, "huh, just use JB Weld, wait 10 minutes and you are good to go.

I did, I was, and that was 6 years ago!
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Old 05-06-2006, 04:41 PM   #299
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Another possible fix is to use a sheetmetal screw with a rubber washer. I did this in college to my '66 Mustang fuel tank and forgot all about it until it was noticed by the guy I sold it to 6 years later. Never leaked gas.
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Thanks for the ideas. Here is what I did. Drilled a hole, threaded a 1/4 by 38 thread in the tank, used a screw, faucet washer, metal washer, faucet washer and a bolt on the inside of the tank. So far have tested to 35 lbs. and it's holding. Will test to 45 Lbs. tomorrow.

I tried my Par Air compressor for the first time. It works! It a Par Air compressor 7000. Anyone know where I can get overhaul parts for this compressor. It's nice to have extras for a item made in 1962.
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Hello norcal bambi ,

An excellent job you are doing!! I think you need to look inside the pressure tank thru the fill of course to see if it is good .Pinholes are fromm internal corrosion eating thru the inside of the tank .The aluminum tank that was in my 60 trdwnd was full of corrosion ,many pinholes ,the floor surprisingly was in very good condition ,I got lucky .I had a stainless steel pressure tank built for mine,about the same size ,a little bigger 12" diameter .The patch method is really not the best way to go ,ditch that tank for a good one.Have you removed the water heater controller assy that threads into the tank? My heater was loaded with crap,white calcium deposits ,alot ,one thing you cant tell without internal inspection.A couple ideas to help you if possible .
By the way the compressor automatic shut off can be 65psi as my trdwnd is.You dont want water flooding your restoration.

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Old 05-07-2006, 08:22 AM   #302
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Hello norcal Bambi ,

An excellent job you are doing!! I think you need to look inside the pressure tank thru the fill of course to see if it is good .Pinholes are from internal corrosion eating thru the inside of the tank .The aluminum tank that was in my 60 trdwnd was full of corrosion ,many pinholes ,the floor surprisingly was in very good condition ,I got lucky .I had a stainless steel pressure tank built for mine,about the same size ,a little bigger 12" diameter .The patch method is really not the best way to go ,ditch that tank for a good one.Have you removed the water heater controller assy that threads into the tank? My heater was loaded with crap,white calcium deposits ,alot ,one thing you cant tell without internal inspection.A couple ideas to help you if possible .
By the way the compressor automatic shut off can be 65psi as my trdwnd is.You dont want water flooding your restoration.

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I have looked thru the fill with a light in the tank. Their is some corrosion in the bottom of the tank. My current fix is mainly so I can continue with my work. I would like to replace the tank. Haven't found a source for the tank yet. Where did you get yours made, and how much? I had the top of the hot water heater tank removed so I could inspect the inside. It was in good condition. Then the top was heliarched back on. This was done by a certified welder. Then pressure checked. How do you like the pressure system. One of my reasons for wanting the pressure system is when someone get up in the middle of the nite facilities can be used without a noisy pump starting.
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Zolatome spraying

Yesterday I sprayed Zolatone for the first time. A new Zolatone finis is really nice. However! Yes, however i miss calculated and ran out of paint before I finished. So I going to redo. "The well laid plans of mice and men". I will include more details after I finish the second time. Some day when we meet you will have to ask me about the time I saved $50. It was connected with a 1931 Cadillac V12 Sedan.
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Yesterday I sprayed Zolatone for the first time. A new Zolatone finis is really nice. However! Yes, however i miss calculated and ran out of paint before I finished. So I going to redo. "The well laid plans of mice and men". I will include more details after I finish the second time. Some day when we meet you will have to ask me about the time I saved $50. It was connected with a 1931 Cadillac V12 Sedan.
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Hi Don; I have some questions about the zolatone (although the Cadillac thing raises questions too!). Where did you purchase the Zolatone? How much did it cost, what are you using to spray it with, and are you doing the multi-color "splatter" like paint, kind of how they came originally?

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Andrew, Go to the Zolatone automotive web site. http://www.zolatoneaim.com
An copy all their brochures and tech sheets. That's a good start. My Bambi which is 13 feet long inside creates about 300 Sq. ft. of paint-able space. My first mistake was to misread the information. A gallon of paint will cover apx. 150 Sq. ft. The colors that they have do not match the original color of my trailer. I talked with the V.P. of the company and he told me how some people use their primary colors that are close to red, yellow, and blue to mix and get a color they wont. So I bought Camille White, Lilith Charcoal, Admiral Blue, and Bright Yellow in an attempt to come up with a color that was similar to the original. Here is a good place for my quote of the day. I'd and artist an have worked with color for many years. What I know did not apply to the mixing of Zolatone. I bought one gallon of the white and a quart of the others. The cost was around $250. I will now buy 2 gallons of the Apollo Gray which will cost another $250. That's a lot of & to paint the inside of a small trailer. I really like the Zolatone finish. I guess that's obvious! Based on how it comes out, I may offer a joint service to others who won't to use Zolatone.
We'll see. If all some one has ever used is a rattle can, I would strongly suggest they think twice. Another thing I have discovered is that it is a very messy spraying process. One should mask off and cover up far more area than they think is necessary. Cover everything in sight. After you read the info from Zolatone let's talk more.
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The actual, authentic zolatone is still available. It is at www.zolatone.com. It comes in solvent based and water based now, where it used to be only solvent based, if I remember correctly. The product is called Polymix.
I have very many of their paint samples, if you're interested.
The spray process seems very involved, you need a high pressure paint pot and a high quality Binks type gun. Which is why I shied away from it.
The colors are much more vibrant, and some of their samples look exactly like vintage Airstream Zolatone finishes.
I have seen the camille white, and find it not even close...however, it is a very durable and easy to apply coating, often used for simplicity and durability by restorers.
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Uwe, Thanks for the info. I have the equipment to spray the Zolatone. Once I was set up it was not that hard to do. I was unable to find a color that matched my trailer. I looked in the section you mentioned but couldn't find any color samples. However I have already made a commitment on Apollo Gray 20-11. to go over the top of my first attempt. In fact I should be spraying tomorrow. Just for the sake of future information, if you could send me the information on the Zolatome type you mentioned. I will send for a color sample sheet from Zolatone.
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