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Old 01-19-2008, 08:38 AM   #1
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Floor material - what and where?!?!

We have acquired a '58 Overlander which needs a new floor. We have pretty much gutted it and are taking out lower panels to gain access to the c-channel. The edge of the belly pan looks good so far and we are thinking of doing a frame on floor replacement by cutting the center of the belly pan out (about 8"-12" back from the edge).

Our problem is the replacement floor: We have searched high and low for a vendor of 5/8" marine-grade plywood and met with failure. Our local hardware store owner is STILL looking for it for us as well and after 3 weeks has unable to find it.

We had considered something like Coosa Composites, LLC - Manufacture of high-density, fiberglass-reinforced polyurethane foam panels. I suspect it is pricy, but if it will result in a floor we NEVER have to worry about again and can tell our heirs to the Airstream they never have to worry about again, well, it may be our answer. We'll just do a big budget adjustment.

I have emailed the company twice - no answer. Do they not deal with pitiful small fry like us?

So...where the heck are y'all getting your flooring from?!?! We are thinking we may have to do a road trip for it - sheesh!
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:17 AM   #2
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Sounds like you are on the right track as far as replacing your floor.

We are in the midst of a similar undertaking with our '56 Safari. We found 3/4" marine grade plywood at our lumber warehouse (Austin Hardwoods) here in Denver. The original appears to have been 5/8" but the vinyl floor tile also was under the c-channel which added a little more dimension to it. So the 3/4", while being a snug fit, will work. You may look for a specialty lumber yard in your area...good luck!

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Old 01-19-2008, 09:36 AM   #3
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We have acquired a '58 Overlander which needs a new floor. We have pretty much gutted it and are taking out lower panels to gain access to the c-channel. The edge of the belly pan looks good so far and we are thinking of doing a frame on floor replacement by cutting the center of the belly pan out (about 8"-12" back from the edge).

Our problem is the replacement floor: We have searched high and low for a vendor of 5/8" marine-grade plywood and met with failure. Our local hardware store owner is STILL looking for it for us as well and after 3 weeks has unable to find it.

We had considered something like Coosa Composites, LLC - Manufacture of high-density, fiberglass-reinforced polyurethane foam panels. I suspect it is pricy, but if it will result in a floor we NEVER have to worry about again and can tell our heirs to the Airstream they never have to worry about again, well, it may be our answer. We'll just do a big budget adjustment.

I have emailed the company twice - no answer. Do they not deal with pitiful small fry like us?

So...where the heck are y'all getting your flooring from?!?! We are thinking we may have to do a road trip for it - sheesh!
Try Fingerle Lumber Company's Web Store featuring 20,000 lumber and building material products! 4x8x3/4 $115.00 4x8x5/8 $104.00 they may ship, they are a very big lumber company in Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:23 AM   #4
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Thanks to both of you!

Toastie, I have a brother out in MI; if I can't get it delivered out here, a family visit might be in order. I live in Western NYS, not far from Buffalo or Rochester.
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Thanks to both of you!

Toastie, I have a brother out in MI; if I can't get it delivered out here, a family visit might be in order. I live in Western NYS, not far from Buffalo or Rochester.
I'm sure Fingerle will ship, call them (PHONE: (734) 663-0581 (800) 365-0700) they do have a u.p.s. department............
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:40 AM   #6
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I'm sure Fingerle will ship, call them (PHONE: (734) 663-0581 (800) 365-0700) they do have a u.p.s. department............
Nice folks, we already called them and the guy on the phone was very helpful. He did mention that shipping would be over-the-top expensive.

Still, he gave us some leads for us to explore.

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As I have stated numerous times, you don't need marine plywood what so ever, total waste of money.

Use exterior grade ply, it has the same glue as marine.

The difference with marine is the inner plys have no voids, can't have that on a boat.

This is not a boat.
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As I have stated numerous times, you don't need marine plywood what so ever, total waste of money.

Use exterior grade ply, it has the same glue as marine.

The difference with marine is the inner plys have no voids, can't have that on a boat.

This is not a boat.
Agree, what kind of sealer should one use around the edge..........thanks
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You can put a coat of epoxy resin on all seams.

But if you want it to last forever put a thin layer of fiberglass cloth and resin the whole floor.

I also put 1/4" Dbl foil insulation R-14 on top then pergo wood.
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I would vote against any floor sealing especially epoxy. Some might know, that epoxy hardener is acid. Acid put against aluminum siding????
I am presently restoring 1965 Safari. It is generally in good condition with little use and stored in CA didn't dry rotted too much. Regardless had some plumbing problems like freeze damage under the sink and leaky plastic water tank.
Long story making short, if the floor would be sealed I would have whole trailer flooded before I could track the leak. The way the factory build it, the water was finding its way under the trailer on short distances, making only part of the floor wet.
BTW when you stay in the trailer, you need air exchange for breathing.
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For our finished floor we used Quick-Step laminate. This is a "click together" mid priced floating laminate (ours is maple). Pretty easy installation.

It has been in about 18 months (including a 6 month road trip) and has held up very well despite spills, two cats and a short dog and my general messiness in the galley.

We were in Maine when we installed it (have great friends who own a boatyard so lots of handy power tools -- the band saw a true blessing) and we got the marine ply subfloor material at the local marine supply. However, as LI Pets noted, exterior grade plywood will do just fine in this application.


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Old 01-19-2008, 09:14 PM   #12
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Any lumber yard has 5/8 plywood. I would use (going to) a/c It has exterior glue and one finished side . I'm not talking about the big boxes .I see that the original post is from Belmont NY .If that is located near the raceway head east .I think Riverhead building Supply has a yard in Brentwood and they deliver all over the island
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We have acquired a '58 Overlander which needs a new floor. We have pretty much gutted it and are taking out lower panels to gain access to the c-channel. The edge of the belly pan looks good so far and we are thinking of doing a frame on floor replacement by cutting the center of the belly pan out (about 8"-12" back from the edge).

Our problem is the replacement floor: We have searched high and low for a vendor of 5/8" marine-grade plywood and met with failure. Our local hardware store owner is STILL looking for it for us as well and after 3 weeks has unable to find it.

We had considered something like Coosa Composites, LLC - Manufacture of high-density, fiberglass-reinforced polyurethane foam panels. I suspect it is pricy, but if it will result in a floor we NEVER have to worry about again and can tell our heirs to the Airstream they never have to worry about again, well, it may be our answer. We'll just do a big budget adjustment.

I have emailed the company twice - no answer. Do they not deal with pitiful small fry like us?

So...where the heck are y'all getting your flooring from?!?! We are thinking we may have to do a road trip for it - sheesh!
You may have a better response from Coosa if you call them directly, rather than just email. You should be able to then find out where you can purchase their product in your area. Sometimes emailing isn't enough......good luck and let us know how much it is. I may need to do the same, but first I have to find an AS!!
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:12 PM   #14
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Well, we got in touch with the Coosa folk directly and today the floor material was delivered. We have ripped the floor up and cleaned, loctite rust neutralized and primed the frame. We were pleased with the overall condition of the frame. Most of it is excellent. We have a couple of spots to get welded, but we are planning on getting the floor in shortly.

The stuff is eyepoppingly light in weight; the experts from Coosa assure us it has the same stiffness as plywood. We'll get back with y'all with the results. My only fear is the stiffness factor.
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