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Old 09-14-2011, 09:13 AM   #29
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Didn't they put the water tank under the front window on older model trailers? Doesn't more tongue weight, countered by the weight distribution system, equal a smoother ride? I'm planning on an open floor plan with one big living/kitchen. The bathroom would be the only closed off space. The only other place I can think to put the tank is along the side opposite the kitchen.
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Old 09-14-2011, 09:16 AM   #30
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Streamtrain - you are just figuring out your rot situation? It can be a terrible feeling, but it is fixable. Long road though...many hours of lost sleep...Im having fun though
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I'm not worried about the rot, more so just finishing the season for work. I live/work in my trailer from April till November. After that I can build my own frame and shorten the trailer.

I have a cargo trailer that I purchased from an Electrician who had it custom made. The axles are really far back from the tongue. My airstream is also a swept back axle. Both of these trailer exert a lot of weight on the hitch. I haul with a 3/4 ton HD and it's surprising how much weight pushes down on the back of the truck with the Airstream, and it's gutted inside. I've built utility trailers so the pricipales are the same. I feel that overloading the tongue is not nessissary if the weight is distributed accordingly on the trailer. Addding weight to the front is as bad as to much to the rear.
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The heavy tongue weight is why you have to have a weight distributing hitch. There is pretty much no camper that gets around that.
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Old 09-16-2011, 04:29 PM   #33
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Sorry, that post reads kind of rude. Didn't mean it that way. It just seems that the tongue is always supported by either the truck or the tongue jack, so it doesn't suffer from the same stress as the rear. I could be wrong. Just saying.
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Old 09-16-2011, 04:44 PM   #34
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Nice work on the frame. The only thing that comes to mind on two fresh water tanks is how to plumb the pump to both. One would need a selector of some sort. Or, perhaps allow one to gravity feed into the other and have the pump to source from the lower tank.


I would reconsider the gray tank issue. I don't know your plans, but no campground I have stayed in will allow dumping of gray water. Some won't even allow the use of an external "blue" tank.

I dump gray water, albeit on the sly, at NASCAR tracks and when dry camping in remote spots and really don’t see a problem. But campgrounds seem to hold another opinion.

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Oh lord. Now you got me wondering. Does anyone know of a good source for a gray tank that will fit between the frame rails? Or any ideas on an above floor gray tank involving pumps or something?
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Ronco plastics makes a nice tank that fits perfectly. It is their 17H black tank.
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Oh lord. Now you got me wondering. Does anyone know of a good source for a gray tank that will fit between the frame rails? Or any ideas on an above floor gray tank involving pumps or something?
Here: RV Surplus

Or here: Gray Water Tank

Or have them custom made. Pumps would work fine. Unless you have a shower, you could even put them above the floor. However, space is at a premium in my 18', so putting them between the frame rails is very important for me.
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I like that tank but am hoping to fit the tank totally within the rails, like the one from VTS does. Unfortunately, VTS is out of tanks for a couple more weeks and I need one now. Yikes.

Where can I have one custom made? One place I talked to said it would cost $1500.
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So lets talk floor plan, Im thinking of doing something similar to this which I'm sure everyone has seen. I like the one big open space with only the bathroom separate. What do you guys think? I need opinions.
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I like that tank but am hoping to fit the tank totally within the rails, like the one from VTS does. Unfortunately, VTS is out of tanks for a couple more weeks and I need one now. Yikes.

Where can I have one custom made? One place I talked to said it would cost $1500.
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Have you looked at all the tanks on Pelland's web site? They are resellers of just about all the big plastic tank manufacturers. As far as custom tanks, have you tried all-rite? They quoted me a price quickly and said they could ship within 48 hours.
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... and without a commercial account from either vendor, you pay full retail cost. Sometimes a person with a commercial account can order it for you and help you save over 60% on those tanks. Without said commercial account you will pay full retail. Pelland also makes custom tanks.
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... and without a commercial account from either vendor, you pay full retail cost. Sometimes a person with a commercial account can order it for you and help you save over 60% on those tanks. Without said commercial account you will pay full retail. Pelland also makes custom tanks.
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