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Old 01-07-2010, 08:04 AM   #15
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:00 AM   #16
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Good photos in the last few posts. Wow!

The factory explanation about the spare tire is a lot of huzzanga. From taking my '74 Argosy apart I can say there is a broad area of unsupported floor at the front. In this pic from my Argosy, the angled members continue forward and become the A-frame.

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The trapezoidal area in the middle is where a spare would have gone. My Argo never had a spare tire but this area is always prepped as if a spare might be added later as an option. AFAIK the factory has built this area the same whether equipping the unit with a spare or not.

[on edit: in the lower part of the pic at the edge of the plywood, note half of the crosswise beam exposed. This beam occurs at the first full rib at the junction of the end cap and the start of the parallel trailer sides. The front plywood section rests solidly on and is screwed to this beam.]


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Old 01-07-2010, 09:13 AM   #17
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Randf: I like the old saying, "If you hear hoof beats look for horses, not zebras!",
If you ask me, I'm going with water damage. My theory is that it happened while it sat on the lot for several months.....(the door was left open in the rain, and water accumulated towards the front....must have been sitting a little nose-low) the time they cleaned it up the damage was done. And, one more thing: "I feel your pain" ....I've had several issues with my present trailer that I attribute to abuse from the time period when it sat at the dealership.....I won't bore you with the details; hopefully Airstream will take care of this for you. And finally, I don't buy the "spare tire" explanation.....Makes me call into question whether the factory was actually consulted.
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:35 AM   #18
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...In my case, 2/3 of the queen bed's subfloor was soaked...

...This happened to me to my brand-new trailer, AFTER ONLY 1 YEAR...
hole-y mole-y astro ! and WOW!

this is worthy of entire thread on just THIS issue in your unit.

maybe something like....

"my bed was swallowed by swamp aliens" or "the OH! in my trip to ohio"

that is some impressive wet spot n rot, really.

got more pics of the repairs?

what'd they do 2 the seam/outer panel bumper to prevent this happening again?

did they add a life preserver to the bed room gear just in case?

thanks for sharing, wow.

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Old 01-07-2010, 11:49 AM   #19
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Astro', that is scary! I'd like to know how it happened too. Owning a recent model Airstream is a frightening experience waiting for something to happen that I saw on the Forum.

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Old 05-11-2011, 11:51 AM   #20
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i can't believe it has been over a year since the original posts, so i suppose i owe everyone a followup on my dealings with airstream and the repair shop (original sales shop). i can't say i'm completley happy with either of these two organizations, just haven't had time to follow up post "repair".

cue time-travel music and imagine it's january of 2010 again....

so after getting alot of good opinions, i insisted that the repair shop contact airstream for better instructions that just getting out the hacksaw and seeing what they can find.

also a bad streak of cold weather turned out to be very helpful. the shop foreman went out after a week or so of straight 15 degree temperatures and admitted that he heard ice crunching under his feet as he walked around the front of the trailer.

the airstream rep made several calls to me and was very patient in listening to my concerns and finally gave the repair facility instructions to "exploratory surgery" from the inside out.

the dealer took out the dinette, the water tank, and pealed back the front of the laminate floor and found substantial evidence of water (now ice) damage. they said that the laminate was marine grade quality (not subject to deteriation having water on/in it) so dried it out and put a anti-mold/mildew substance on it and rolled the floor back out.

then they put the trailer thru some pressure testing and discovered that the seals around the panaromic front window were leaking pretty badly. the water was staying in between the inner and outer shell and running down to the floor where i guess it was leaching into the flooring.

so they repaired the leaks and handed me back the trailer.

i wasn't completely happy with the repair b/c the floor still has that "tilting feeling towards the front" and the table still slopes towards the back of the trailer "significantly". also the laminate still has the subtle dark undercast. and if you look really close, you can see little bubbles in the laminate as some of the crumbly floor bits in astroboy's pictures above were left on the surface of the flooring when the laminate was rolled back down.

the airstream rep said to send pictures (i did) and to call him to discuss resolution.

that was the state of things last summer. i did not have a chance to follow up as i went on a no-notice deployment mid summer and then another in the winter, just barely getting a chance to winterize before leaving.

now that it is travel season again, we've been out on our first trip of the year and i am still unhappy with the look of the floor and tilt of the table. so i suppose i will be calling the rep to see if he remembers me and if airstream will be willing to do anything for these "cosmetic" problems. i am still unsure about the integrity of the wood after getting ahold of the photos the dealer took when they peeled back the floor.
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Old 05-11-2011, 12:32 PM   #21
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Sorry to be the bearer of unfavorable theories, but I have the same model as you and suffered the same symptoms as you and discovered that the fill hose to the water tank had been leaking for two years undetected. The water would run down the wall and get between the flooring and the subfloor and completely rotted out the subfloor. Unfortunately, this discovery was made 10 months out of warranty and the mothership refused to have anyting to do with the repair . The good news is the repair was fairly straight forward, the good folks at C & G in Bellflower were as gentle as they could be with pricing and the workmanship was top rate. A word of warning to all Bambi owners, keep checking the connectors of the fill line and the overflow line to the fresh water tank for leaking. Best to check after a long tow as the water has been sloshing about.
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Old 05-11-2011, 02:25 PM   #22
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Wow. I am not at the trailer so can't visualize where I could check for this leak. Under the seat where the tank is at?
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:38 PM   #23
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Correct. Once you get access to the tank you want to check the hoses coming from the wall where they connect to the tank. There is a fill line and an overflow/vent line. Run your finger around where they connect to the tank and the wall and check for moisture. After my repair I was checking every trip, now maybe once a month.

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