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06-24-2006, 09:26 PM
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1989 29' Land Yacht
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did i see a thread....?
the member was showing how they had repaired the outriggers using plywood.....
i cant seem to locate this thread....instead of fabricating new outriggers they had used (i think) a marine grade ply....
thanks for point me in the right direction....
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06-25-2006, 06:50 AM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
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I don't recall that thread, but it doesn't seem very practical. Water is going to get down there. Plywood, turned up on edge and exposed to water seems like a problem in the waiting.
Jim
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06-25-2006, 10:06 AM
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1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
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If you do a search for "repair outriggers" you'll come up with some likely candidates inlcluding this one about trex. not sure it's the one you're hunting for though...
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06-25-2006, 10:43 AM
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Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leefields
the member was showing how they had repaired the outriggers using plywood.....
i cant seem to locate this thread....instead of fabricating new outriggers they had used (i think) a marine grade ply....
thanks for point me in the right direction....
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You cannot repair steel load carrying parts with wood.
The out riggers do carry the shell weight as well as other things.
Andy
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06-25-2006, 11:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leefields
the member was showing how they had repaired the outriggers using plywood.....
i cant seem to locate this thread....instead of fabricating new outriggers they had used (i think) a marine grade ply....
thanks for point me in the right direction....
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Wow, that has "Bad Plan" written all over it. Plywood outriggers wouldn't last very long, as well as the fact you couldn't really attach them to the frame, or anything else. Someone with a little experience welding, and able to read a tape measure, would be able to weld something together for you that would work better than the plywood. And that isn't really saying that would be good, either, just better.
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06-25-2006, 11:51 AM
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1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
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Not to start a flame war... but I have learned to never say never Morgan cars were built with steel main frames, wooden body frames (ash IIRC) that the sheet metal was attached too. Lasted pretty well too. I am not advocating the use of wood/plywood in this instance but it probably could be A) engineered so it could work, B) I am sure someone has probably tried it.
Years ago I saw engineered plans for a boat trailer made out of laminated wooden beams, it met all the structural requirements. But it had one major drawback...without the boat on it, it floated I have pictures of it somewhere.
Aaron
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06-25-2006, 12:12 PM
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Wooden ribs
IIRC, there was a suggestion of replacing damaged ribs in the shell with wooden ribs. Since there wouldn't be as much load on them as on the frame outriggers, and the wood would be as strong as aluminum, it should work. It would add some weight to the trailer, but it would be completely hidden when you finished.
Don't remember anything about replacing frame outriggers with wood. It would seem that it would be easier to fab some steel replacements than to engineer strong enough wooden ones and figure out how to attach them.
Didn't Morgan or one of the Brittish sports cars make a car with a wooden chassis and no springs in the suspension? Seems like they relied on the flex of the wood to be the suspension. Seems like I remember that from somewhere, but may be wrong.
Neal
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06-29-2006, 03:33 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1978 31' Excella 500
Goose Creek
, South Carolina
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Outriggers for the frame are still available, check with Out-of-Doors Mart.
They have a good selection of most parts in stock, check your service manual for part #
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06-29-2006, 05:26 PM
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2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
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This thread tickled something in deep recesses, but I don't think I posted on wood outriggers. I do have a thread I need to start up on a boatbuilding technique how to template irregularly shaped surfaces. I did make plywood templates as a guide for the welder who replaced 2 outriggers on my Argosy.
Aaron said 'flame war?' 'Flame war.' Hunh-huh-huh-huh... (okay, read it like you heard it on Beavis & Butthead). Wood is not impossible. It's just that to be strong enough it would have to be heavy, bulky, and chemically treated within an inch of taking your life. Somebody actually built a motorcycle out of the darned stuff! Here and here.
Holzarbeiter -- Do you have a weblink to those?
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06-29-2006, 09:01 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1978 31' Excella 500
Goose Creek
, South Carolina
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www.outofdoorsmart.com or call them at 336-993-4518 or toll free 866-636-2267
For templating I would recommend Therma Board, easy to cut, I have used it on my floor replacement as well as templating trim on upper end sportfishers
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06-30-2006, 08:10 AM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canoe stream
........ I do have a thread I need to start up on a boatbuilding technique how to template irregularly shaped surfaces........
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That's a thread I'd like to see. I need to learn how to do this.
Jim
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