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Old 02-23-2015, 05:13 AM   #1
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'81 Excella rear bath model ??

Hello all, I am looking at a 81 31ft rear bath excella 2 trailer and upon inspection noticed something I am not familiar with so I am asking for info/advice on it.
At the rear of the trailer I noticed a slight gap in the caulking at the corner where the shell meets the frame. I put my hand on the bumper and noticed about a 1/8 to 1/4 in movement between the frame and the shell. So what does that mean? There was no gap in the middle area behind the bumper lid just the corners.
Could it be the rear sag or had that been corrected by the 80`s ?

The rest of the trailer looked solid just needs cosmetic work and tlc.

Any info on that rear affected area would be appreciated.
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Old 02-23-2015, 12:39 PM   #2
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Hello all, I am looking at a 81 31ft rear bath excella 2 trailer and upon inspection noticed something I am not familiar with so I am asking for info/advice on it.
At the rear of the trailer I noticed a slight gap in the caulking at the corner where the shell meets the frame. I put my hand on the bumper and noticed about a 1/8 to 1/4 in movement between the frame and the shell. So what does that mean? There was no gap in the middle area behind the bumper lid just the corners.
Could it be the rear sag or had that been corrected by the 80`s ?

The rest of the trailer looked solid just needs cosmetic work and tlc.

Any info on that rear affected area would be appreciated.
Rear bath models are prone to "rear end separation. This is where the body separates from the frame. I had the same thing in a previous Airstream. Not an easy fix. There should be numerous threads on this subject.
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Old 02-23-2015, 09:37 PM   #4
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Does the rear frame separation occur in trailers of the 1980`s ?

Or could this movement I am seeing be something else.

I have looked at some old threads where there was rear frame separation and there were large gaps all around the back of the trailer and the one I am looking at is not like that at all. The only thing I saw was a movement when I moved the bumper up and down and was about a 1/8 to 1/4 inch so I did not know if it was normal for some flexing. And its more noticeable on the curbside.
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Old 02-24-2015, 12:19 AM   #5
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If you are moving the bumper that much that easy, something is going on. The frame that holds the bumper should be almost completely solid with very little flex.

An 81 is for all practical purposes structurally identical to a 70s trailer.

IMO, frame separation is no big deal to fix once the interior walls and fixtures are out of the way, and even replacing the last four feet of frame is easy enough for a respectable welder.

It would be a big deal if the whole frame is rusted out though.


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There is no visible rust through like I have seen on some trailers just small amount of surface rust. For this a good cleaning and painting would take care of.

I had a trailer years ago that had complete rust through on the frame under the step area and that was scary .

What would be a good price to offer for a 81 31 ft trailer ?



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It's probably not the frame that is rusted through, but the wood flooring in between. Water can run down in between the inner and outer skins and that rots the plywood. Once that plywood is gone, there is nothing to keep the upper aluminum frame and the lower steel frame together in a rigid box. If you check my blog you will see what I had to do to replace the back four feet of flooring. As for price, it really depends on the overall condition of the trailer. Just keep in mind that it will need a good bit of work to fix the problem.
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Thanks. The trailer is solid except for that part at the rear.


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When you say the water runs between the inner and outer skins would the source of water be from the tail light assembly possibly or is there another common spot?
Thanks for the info as I have never dealt with repairing flooring ect but there's always a first.


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Water runs down the back of the trailer and hits a plate that goes under the floor. You have rear end separation and it will be a pain to fix since you will have to remove the bathroom. To get to the floor back there. It can be done but it is more work. The stress on rear bathroom trailers is a lot larger since the bathroom and tanks are back there. My 81 has a center bath and it was not fun and all I had to remove were the beds. You will have a project on your hands.

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'81 Excella rear bath model ??

Price for an 81? I am not sure. I paid $3,500 for my 75 that looked rough when I bought it, (but it was a better trailer than it looked).

Here is my thought on the rear of the 81.

It sounds like it isn't bad even if it is separating to some degree. I kind of think that most of the issues here are caused by old stiff axles hammering the trailer apart, and then water gets in and rots things.

If it were me I would consider buying the trailer, switching out the axles, sealing up the rear leaks, enjoy it, and save the heavy repairs for if and when they are required.

In essence, if there is some rear rot in a rear bath trailer, there is nothing saying that it needs to be fixed "100% right" to enjoy the trailer for many years. Whatever damage there is, already is, (whether it is fixed right now or fixed right in five years) and chances are whatever this is wont make a practical difference in how the trailer can be enjoyed.


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There was some rear rot and separation in the rear of this trailer, I didn't fix it. It wasn't bad enough to worry about yet.
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Thanks for all the replies. I had told my DW earlier today basically what you said J. Morgan that if we did decide to buy this trailer that maybe we could seal up the rear so there will be no further water intrusion and use it for a year and then address the rear area. That will give us time to camp this summer and enjoy it and keep looking at all the other great posts/threads on here for ideas on how we can update this diamond in the ruff.
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'81 Excella rear bath model ??

If you buy, and the time comes to do the right fix it isn't that difficult, and the actual repair only took about a day including replacing the last four feet of frame.

Getting the fixtures out without breaking anything is going to be another day, and one more day to put the stuff back.

It is an intimidating project, but if a person sets their mind to do. It and follows through, in retrospect it will be easier to accomplish than it looks from the beginning.

If you get the trailer, I hope you and yours enjoy it!


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