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Old 03-06-2008, 04:21 PM   #1
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Thank you for the incaplastic link. I e-mailed them a picture of my tank with dimensions and they said they have it. My overlander airstream is a 1973. This is the comment he made to me. Does anybody have a suggestion on how I answer him. This has me a bit confused. I will post a picture of my tank so you all can see.

IF YOU STILL WANT TO ORDER IT, PLEASE INDICATE TYPE OF FITTING ( THREADED, SLIP,GROMMET OR SENSORS LOCATION) MAKE SURE YOU MEASURE I.D. NOT O.D.

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Old 03-04-2008, 01:05 PM   #2
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-Silverback: I think it may vary from year to year, but in my '69 the OEM plywood was 3/4" thick and I'm replacing with same (BC Exterior) after applying 3 coats of "hybrid" polyurethane (ala Aerowood, where you mix all the mis-matched cans of poly you have lying around and slap 'em on)..

-CJ: as I dis-mantled (and because my biz is photog) I shot digital photos oF EVERYTHING, even things I thought I might 'remember' later... and now I'm enjoying posting shots of the entire 'phase 2' (rebuilding instead of dismantling) as a way of giving back, passing it on, since I never would have tackled this proj without the previous threads of prior Metal Gurus..
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:00 PM   #3
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fotochop,
Thanks, ours is a '69 Overlander. So, it was really interesting to see your progress.
We have been to N.O. twice . That was before Katrina. Plan to get back some other time.
Was the only exterior metal removed , the pan?
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Old 03-04-2008, 04:59 PM   #4
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Flanges make me scared...

Ok, I'll try this again, since I posted this in a separate thread hoping "maybe someone will know this right off and I can get to work on it" but that little mini-thread must be a forum faux-pas and it's probably lost in cyberspace somewhere so I'll ask the question again in this WELL-ESTABLISHED thread..

here's my deal. my current black water tank has a flange that is extremely well attached sticking out of it. I believe this is part of the original toilet flange (toilet is a SeaLand model 910). here it is:

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I'm thinking maybe this needs to come OFF the tank and be replaced with something like a current plastic, non-rusting floor flange like the one I bought today, which fits the toilet perfectly (and has a nice foam gasket, not shown):

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Does that sound correct? If so, ugh. That flange on the tank is WELL STUCK to the tank. The new flange looks like it would fit inside the tank, with the old one removed. ??? If you wanna cut me some slack here,consider what a mess this whole thing was when I started on it:

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any and all opinions, no matter how harebrained, will be considered...
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:39 PM   #5
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Rick,

On my '67 the flange threaded into a fitting on the top of the tank. The plywood was sandwiched between the the flange and the tank. I am now using a new tank with a rubber grommet and a flange like the one in your picture. They make a special wrench to turn out the old flange in your picture. You might be able to rent or borrow one from a good plumbing supply store.
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Old 03-04-2008, 05:56 PM   #6
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thanks, caravanner, that's what I needed to know. It looks like a 'spanner' wrench is what's needed to remove the old flange, as it has two notches opposite each other, so I'll try to locate one of those. The new flange fits the toilet perfectly (the old one didn't) so I think i'll be using the new..gracias
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Old 03-06-2008, 05:00 PM   #7
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Check out the different fittings on page 28 of this .pdf from the folks I had do my fittings - it may help you with the terminology ~

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Old 03-06-2008, 09:23 PM   #8
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Check out the different fittings on page 28 of this .pdf from the folks I had do my fittings - it may help you with the terminology ~

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Hey, Lady, thanks for sharing The Metal Company catalog! I saw part of it when I stopped by Timeless Trailers and I needed a copy so I could study it!

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Old 03-06-2008, 08:05 PM   #9
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OK, why is there always a 'dangling photograph' in my posts...? paperclip sabotage... the dangler above is a birds eye view of the tubes that connect the heater duct and the blacktank pan (to keep the tank from freezing...before I learned this I thought "why would you want blackwater overflow going into the heater duct?"....DUH...) anyway these two have to line up when you're re-fitting your blacktank, that's my only point...and they're connected by a short lengtht of radiator hose, for those of you who haven't seen your trailer's bath guts yet...
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Old 03-06-2008, 09:32 PM   #10
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Was your lead time on the tank order pretty fast? I think it is going to be a season two project, new pan, tank, etc. Thanks Frank for the great detail. Am I correct in the notion you installed the tank and pan from below? Its looking good! And we're learning a lot watching.
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Old 03-15-2008, 07:31 PM   #11
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looks good! Can't wait to see it back together.
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Old 03-19-2008, 06:56 AM   #12
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Your doing a great job. Hope my 1969 31' looks that good when we get done. Hubby has backed the AS onto the driveway, he has to grind off the support brackets that hold the belly pan for the black tank. He wants to put better supports as these look like nothing but rust and they sag. Hubby is talking about going from beam to beam instead of the way AS installed. Anyone have any inputs on redesigining the black tank support braces?

I have some repairs to do to my tub cornor and the surround behind the toilet. You have gave me some great ideas. Thanks fotoshop
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:23 AM   #13
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"Anyone have any inputs on redesigining the black tank support braces?"

well, if you can be sure that you will NEVER have to remove the blacktank I guess that might work OK. I just assume that everything will one day need maintenance/repair and try to prepare for it if possible. That's why the tank supports bolt in, for possible removal. I'm also replacing my bolts with stainless ones, which may have a bit more rust-free shelf life..
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Old 03-19-2008, 11:53 AM   #14
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Hubby is going to make the new braces removable, he thinks changing the directions of the brackets will give better support???????????? Oh yes I am sure somewhere down the line we may have to drop the black tank for some type of repair. BUT if it last another 39 years I will be long gone, it will be someone else problem.
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