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Old 12-22-2007, 04:39 PM   #15
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Where would I find elevator bolts?...I would imagine that I need them.
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:55 PM   #16
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Where would I find elevator bolts?...I would imagine that I need them.
You can order them from Vintage Trailer Supply or if you have a Fastenal location near by you can buy them there.
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Old 12-22-2007, 06:29 PM   #17
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IMHO elevator bolts are a POS. I would put .250 stainless steel bolts around the perimeter and 82degree countersunk stainless steel bolts in the general floor area.
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Old 12-22-2007, 06:36 PM   #18
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Well today was warm 40F...so I got alot of work done. I took off all of the bottom panels and now the bolts are exposed. I have not taken off the belly pan yet...Do I need to?

Where the floor is rotted, I was able to see the outriggers. They are in great condition...I was able to wipe off the surface rust with my fingers.

I have a circular saw, should I just cut to the depth of the floor to start taking that out.

I was thinking...I wont be able to find plywood of the same quality that is on the floor now. Alot of the stuff I found at home depot looks to have alot of voids and wood puddy in them.
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Old 12-22-2007, 06:55 PM   #19
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Thanks

I put thoes bolts on my shopping list.
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Old 12-22-2007, 08:04 PM   #20
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Aluminati,
you need to find a cabinet maker, ask him where he gets his plywood. Most woodworkers are very open and willing to help you out. They might be kind enough to order it in for you if you treat them kindly or offer to pay cash. You need 18mm marine plywood. That is just shy of 3/4" which is the thickness of the existing plywood and the compressed insulation. Someone will not like this advice and say it is 5/8" you want, but in my Airstream, the thickness of the plywood is 1/32" more than 5/8". With the compressed insulation it is exactly 18 mm. The orange box does not have what you need. They have nothing close to what you need. If you cannot find a cabinet maker go to the phone book and look under plywood. You will find nothing but wholesaler there. You now will need to kiss serious ass to get them to allow you to buy there or pretend you are a cabinet maker that just went out on his own. Pretend you are in the trade and get what you need. The cabinet maker will get a better price than you will pretending to be one. He has an established history and gets a price break tha twould take you years to get. The plywood is going to set you back a bit just like everything else... drop that belly pan now. I was going to work around it, but it is so much easier to get to the bolts with it off. Do that next before anything else, life will be easier that way.

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What is a source for those stainless fasteners? I want to go in that direction.
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Old 12-22-2007, 09:18 PM   #21
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Wow 62 Overlander

Thanks for that advise. I will drop the belly pan this week and update. I will also try and get a lead on the 18mm Marine plywood.
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Old 12-22-2007, 09:47 PM   #22
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I've been trying to reach you by pm, but not sure if you've received them. Just an FYI.

glad you're making progress on the floor removal.
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Past thread on bolts: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...lts-16001.html

A past thread on the subfloor: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...ion-28340.html

Aluminati, if you use the search feature on the forums, you will find more information then you may ever thought possible. Just be prepared to do a lot of reading. It will be well worth your time.

If you view my picture at http://www.airforums.com/photos/show...00&userid=8174 you can get an idea of how to remove your flooring without removing the belly pan. Problem is, you will need to have the belly pan removed to properly reinstall the floor and related insulation.
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What is a source for those stainless fasteners? I want to go in that direction.
Try here McMaster-Carr
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Old 12-23-2007, 07:54 AM   #25
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What is a source for those stainless fasteners? I want to go in that direction.
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I would put .250 stainless steel bolts around the perimeter and 82degree countersunk stainless steel bolts in the general floor area...Try here McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr sells SS elevator bolts... very expensive, but if you are expecting rust... they are worth it.

Aerowood, they also make elevator bolts with a slot in the head... making them less of a pain.



... Or "fanged" bolts too.

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... Problem is, you will need to have the belly pan removed to properly reinstall the floor and related insulation.
Yeah...after talking with a couple of people and thinking about it real hard, I am going to do it the right way and take the bellypan off. If I dont, it will always be in the back of my mind that I did a half-a$$ed job on it...and that is the unacceptable part.

If I want square work...I cant cut corners.

Ill keep you posted.
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McMaster-Carr sells SS elevator bolts... very expensive, but if you are expecting rust... they are worth it.

Aerowood, they also make elevator bolts with a slot in the head... making them less of a pain.



... Or "fanged" bolts too.

Yes I saw those, and they would be perfect. I however, am using all aircraft NAS hardware on mt GT. If I didn't have a supply of the NAS I would most likely use what is pictured. I'm also using all self locking nuts. McMaster-Carr has them also.
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:04 AM   #28
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Belly pan issue.

I have seen where someone would remove the "bananna clips" from around the trailer when they are doing floor replacement. I dont have thoes. My side panels look like the curve under the the body...being one piece. So when I take the belly pan out to get the black water tank out and to replace the floor..I will have to replace the floor from the inside? I dont see how i can step on the back to put pressure on the floor to get the plywood back in place.

I have not done this yet...just making a game plan of how to get everything back toghether before I start taking it apart.

Also...does anyone know if this year had a black and a grey water tank or just a black water tank?
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