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Old 01-07-2016, 10:23 PM   #1
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'68 outrigger questions

Hello!

My fiance and I are replacing 23 (yes, twenty three) outriggers on our '68 Ambassador and I have a quick question before we actually commit to such a large order:

I have measured our outriggers as 5" tall by roughly 14.5" long, I say roughly because there are very few that aren't rusted in some shape or form that allows a very precise measurement. The best ones are towards the rear (pictured). Anyways, I've read that the outriggers available online will not fit the '68 because the body was supposedly widened in '69, which is when the outriggers available online are advertised to fit.

Will this present an issue as we weld on new outriggers and install flooring and place the shell back on? Can we use the ones found online or will they have to be fabricated?

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Old 01-08-2016, 08:31 AM   #2
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Hey Nick,
I am in the same boat with a '68 Overlander. Yesterday, I talked to my neighbor who is a welder by trade. We are working on replicating my outriggers with his mentor. He has a CNC plasma cutter and a metal break to bend them. Once he inputs the design into the computer, it really only becomes cost of materials to make them! I am willing to bet that if I told him I needed an order for 30 of these instead of only 8, it would cut the cost of each down a good bit. These outriggers will not have the oval center cut out since that needs to be beveled with a punch press like at the factory, but it really won't make a big difference. Let me know if you are interested and I will see what sort of a price he comes back to me with for each one.
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Old 01-08-2016, 08:53 AM   #3
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Hi Jared,

I'd definitely be interested in hearing what your friend has to say as far as the cost of each outrigger.

Please keep me updated on what he quotes you per outrigger and I'll let you know.

Nick
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Old 01-10-2016, 08:59 PM   #4
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Hey Nick, I'm looking at this picture and those outriggers don't look so bad from what I can tell... Nothing a little angle grinding with a wire brush, rust converter, and good paint can't fix. I can't see the bottoms where the belly pan attaches, but if they are rusted out to flakes, you can just weld some 1/2" angle iron steel to the bottoms of them so you have a point to rivet the belly pan to. Attached is what my step outrigger looks like... Now THAT is rusted out Click image for larger version

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Old 01-11-2016, 07:37 AM   #5
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Wow! That's pretty bad!

Well it seems like I took the picture at her best angle, the other sides of the outriggers are where the damage really is. and almost all of the outriggers towards the front are rusted and mangled beyond repair or even being used as a template. Pretty horrible, actually. Which is why we're planning on replacing most of them. Our plan is to never have to work on the frame again, so we're doing the work up front to make sure that happens. I already have a few quarts of POR15 waiting in my workshop.
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:44 PM   #6
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Hey Jared, Id be interested in the outriggers also. Im not of how many just yet, but im sure that there a few outriggers that are rusted out. This seems to be a trend in the 68s
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Old 01-18-2016, 10:58 PM   #7
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It's a rusty outrigger epidemic! I've decided to use rectangular tubing and cut the lower curve on the outside of the outrigger with a plasma cutter and a saddle jig. I have 21 outriggers on my '68 trade wind. Rectangular tubing will add ~65# to my trailer (compared to c channel) but I'll likely get ~ twice as much support. I'll plan to tackle this at the end of the month. Will post an update on my resto thread (link below). Best wishes with your repairs/renovations.
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SOA - the CNS plasma will be great for the slot needed by the step. I'm not sure how I'll tackle that one with a non-CNS plasma cutter. For decent step operation, it will be important that slot is smooth.
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Be sure that you bend up some reversed flange ones also, my 71 had a real mix on both sides
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:43 PM   #10
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Prototype!

I saw a prototype today of the CNC'd outrigger!! Looks good to me. We tweeked it a few fractions of an inch here and there, but those are ready to cut and bend. These are SOLID outriggers only since that is all I need to rebuild my rusted out step area. 14.5 long and 5" high, 5/64 steel plate cut and bent. I don't have to run any wiring or ductwork through the outside outriggers. So it doesn't change anything for me except maybe adding a pound or two. He is also going to make me the slightly longer 14.75" outriggers for the step threshold. There are two opposite outriggers tacked together and then the inner side has the notch for the step slide cut into it. Working on that design, but should be pretty easy... Hopefully!

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Looks great Jared
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They came out great! Looking forward to receiving ours sometime this week!
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Hey Nick,
How is it coming with your project? I got my frame almost all welded back together. Just need to fab up a new bumper yet. After seeing the welding bill, I think I probably could have taken a class and rented a welder and still saved money. Welding is NoT cheap. Lesson learned. But still, he did a way better job then I ever could. And I don't have to worry anymore about it. Hoping to get the frame sand blasted and POR'd next week with the warm spring weather finally coming back around!
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