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Old 02-24-2010, 01:07 PM   #239
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Yes, I am using SketchUp and some of the renderings are with Kerkythea.
FC7039 do you have a thread with you work? I like to follow your progress. I found your thread. "Lip"
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Don, your drawings/renderings are very impressive. Am I correct that they are in SketchUp?

I have a 56 FC (that I acquired last summer), but I still am in the demolition stage. I hope to build a wet bath similar to your plans, and (to simplify the plumbing) I have been thinking about a single fixture for the sink and the shower similar to what FC7039 suggested.

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Old 02-24-2010, 03:30 PM   #240
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Yes, I am using SketchUp and some of the renderings are with Kerkythea.
FC7039 do you have a thread with you work? I like to follow your progress. I found your thread. "Lip"
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Yes and no. Yes, you could call this my thread. No, in that I guess I should update it for anyone to follow.

Just for you I will scroung up some pictures and post my latest.

Mostly I do not keep it updated as it only reminds me of the lack of progress I am making. Besides You all are doing so much better.
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I've just finished the design for the side bath in The 55 Flying Cloud. It's not too different form some of the stock designs...
hi donny boy!

good to read u r back in rehab...

has the snow melted, so that u can work outside?

i gots some questions...

1. is this a wet bath?

more later

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Old 02-24-2010, 06:04 PM   #242
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Great renderings for your bath Don, and the setup looks great for the space.

Not that I am suggesting anything for your shower head location, but I noticed Brad posted "Unless you want exposed plumbing, the curved exterior wall is out so that leaves the two end walls."

In ours, the plumbing is in the curved wall and not exposed. Is there a reason this isn't feasible in yours or why someone wouldn't want it located there? I can understand the logical part in a wet bath, not wanting to have the shower head pointed to the doorway. Just wondering why the pipes would need to be exposed.
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:12 PM   #243
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exhaust

Are their generally an exhaust vent in these baths? Or are they just not used enough to worry about moisture build up?
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:44 PM   #244
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Keeping my thread up "is good incentives. I learned that in Rehab." From the movie Captain Ron.
Yes this is a wet bath.
Great to get secret messages form the flat land.
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hi donny boy!

good to read u r back in rehab...

has the snow melted, so that u can work outside?

i gots some questions...

1. is this a wet bath?

more later

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...Yes this is a wet bath...
continuing the query...

why?

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Old 02-24-2010, 06:48 PM   #246
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I will put an exhaust vent and fan in the top of the trailer for the shower moisture and other pleasant things that can happen in this local.There are two reasons for the vent. One is for moisture. The second is there is a hole in the top of the trailer in the right spot that a PO has cut in the trailer. I have no idea what the hole was for in the past. If you look at the colored pictures you will see a black pipe. This is the vent for the plumbing.
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continuing the query...

why?

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Old 02-24-2010, 06:51 PM   #248
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Thanks for the nice complement. I think what I'll probably do when I get to the decision point is hold the shower head up and see what works.
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Great renderings for your bath Don, and the setup looks great for the space.

Not that I am suggesting anything for your shower head location, but I noticed Brad posted "Unless you want exposed plumbing, the curved exterior wall is out so that leaves the two end walls."

In ours, the plumbing is in the curved wall and not exposed. Is there a reason this isn't feasible in yours or why someone wouldn't want it located there? I can understand the logical part in a wet bath, not wanting to have the shower head pointed to the doorway. Just wondering why the pipes would need to be exposed.
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BAH! It has been so long since I was in our AS, I forgot the plumbing isn't in the curved wall for the shower, sorry. The head is just mounted on that wall. The plumbing is in the side wall. You would think I would remember after building the whole thing this summer .

The shower head was mounted in the same spot before de-construction and it seemed the best spot to get the most height out of the shower. Since I am 5'10" and the shower pan is up about 4" off the AS floor as original, I wanted to get my hair wet. I just barely fit under the shower head. It comes off that hook in the ceiling and there is another matching hook near the seat (threw this in for a shower head placement).

Easy to see here:


With the wall in place (disregard the plastic covering the shower floor/seat):


Here is the hardware on the separater wall with the second hook for the shower head:
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'em i think u missed my point...

WHY are u putting a wet bath in a 22 ft trailer?

does it REALLY shrink the space requirements THAT much?

it would seem that ANY space savings is OFFSET by the extra weight...

of a FULLY fiberglassed lavatory/shower...

have u got an ESTIMATE of how much the fiberglass will weigh?

my unit has a 2 piece fiberglass SHOWER stall, but the rest of the lav is LIGHT weight wall board and ply...

if the goal is a compact footprint, consider leaving the lav SINK out or installing a flip up/down sink in the shower.
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same for the retro cool fixtures.

is this trailer for USE and travel (like the bambi) or show?

yes it is an old/cool shell but why not save some weight by using MODERN fixtures?

they don't need to be big or metal but LOW flow would be useful.

the simple/inexpensive/light plastic/nylon shower handles available now work GREAT and are very very light.

(like the 1 in bowman's pic, but there are others examples too)
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:22 AM   #251
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You bring up excellent points. I guess I didn't explain what my goal is with a wet bath. Most of the shower setup in small trailers have high potential for leaks. The leaks sooner or later will rot the floor. I was thinking that a one unit or as close to a one piece unit that I could get would maybe solve the leak problems. The reason for making this post was looking for ideas. How do you create a shower stall etc. with seams that don't leak. These trailers move and joints will leak after time. As you know I like the idea of light weight. I was even considering a design made from Aluminum sheets laminated on foam board. This would have been real cool shinny light etc. But the joints were a problem.
Too all thanks for the ideas and thoughts. Please keep them coming. I'm not afraid of the work doing a custom build. I was hoping together we might come up with a better idea.
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'em i think u missed my point...

WHY are u putting a wet bath in a 22 ft trailer?

does it REALLY shrink the space requirements THAT much?

it would seem that ANY space savings is OFFSET by the extra weight...

of a FULLY fiberglassed lavatory/shower...

have u got an ESTIMATE of how much the fiberglass will weigh?

my unit has a 2 piece fiberglass SHOWER stall, but the rest of the lav is LIGHT weight wall board and ply...

if the goal is a compact footprint, consider leaving the lav SINK out or installing a flip up/down sink in the shower.
________

same for the retro cool fixtures.

is this trailer for USE and travel (like the bambi) or show?

yes it is an old/cool shell but why not save some weight by using MODERN fixtures?

they don't need to be big or metal but LOW flow would be useful.

the simple/inexpensive/light plastic/nylon shower handles available now work GREAT and are very very light.

(like the 1 in bowman's pic, but there are others examples too)
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as always ignore anything above that is wacky or doesn't fit with the goals.

cheers
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:24 AM   #252
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I like this a lot. Thanks for the pictures. What did you do to solve the problem of possible leaks down the road?
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BAH! It has been so long since I was in our AS, I forgot the plumbing isn't in the curved wall for the shower, sorry. The head is just mounted on that wall. The plumbing is in the side wall. You would think I would remember after building the whole thing this summer .

The shower head was mounted in the same spot before de-construction and it seemed the best spot to get the most height out of the shower. Since I am 5'10" and the shower pan is up about 4" off the AS floor as original, I wanted to get my hair wet. I just barely fit under the shower head. It comes off that hook in the ceiling and there is another matching hook near the seat (threw this in for a shower head placement).

Easy to see here:


With the wall in place (disregard the plastic covering the shower floor/seat):


Here is the hardware on the separater wall with the second hook for the shower head:
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