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Old 03-21-2012, 02:38 PM   #337
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Hi I have the lights already. I went with the original light bulb look. I am not crazy about the look of LED but to each his own
I thought I was the only one...
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:08 PM   #338
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The looks of LED clearance and tail lights, is way down the list.

What is in first place, however, is SAFETY.

Every one admits that the LED lights are brighter in the daylight than the bulb type lights are at night.

It's not really what we see as the owner, it's most importantly what the person driving behind us see's, especially at night and also on streets or highways that do not have any street lights.

Safety, should never, ever, take a back seat.

Who might be behind you???? Maybe someone using a cell phone, or heaven forbid, TEXTING.

Think about it, for just a tiny moment.

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Old 03-21-2012, 06:25 PM   #339
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Andy,
I am sorry, but on a vintage trailer they simply look horrible.
Yes, they are brighter.
The brighterness(purposeful misspelling) of them is what makes them so out of place on the vintageness.
If someone is distracted texting they are going to hit you. No amount of brightness is going to change that.
If safety is the only concern, I would avoid getting on the road. It is a proven fact that "on the road" is what kills most Americans.
Nothing annoys me more than driving behind a vehicle with LED lights and one or more diodes in the light as dead. It is not a simple, remove the lens, replace the $1.09 bulb, and put the lens back. The whole unit must be replaced. Screws removed, fixtures removed, re sealed, larger screws because the old ones were torqued too much, all leading to more work and more chances of a leak you will not detect till too late.
I am sorry to differ, but for me personally, it is bulb style.
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I am sorry, but on a vintage trailer they simply look horrible.
Yes, they are brighter.
The brighterness(purposeful misspelling) of them is what makes them so out of place on the vintageness.
If someone is distracted texting they are going to hit you. No amount of brightness is going to change that.
If safety is the only concern, I would avoid getting on the road. It is a proven fact that "on the road" is what kills most Americans.
Nothing annoys me more than driving behind a vehicle with LED lights and one or more diodes in the light as dead. It is not a simple, remove the lens, replace the $1.09 bulb, and put the lens back. The whole unit must be replaced. Screws removed, fixtures removed, re sealed, larger screws because the old ones were torqued too much, all leading to more work and more chances of a leak you will not detect till too late.
I am sorry to differ, but for me personally, it is bulb style.

frank.

You do indeed have some valid points.

Our findings so far at least, indicate that the el-cheapo LED's indeed have partial failures, which defeats the real purpose.

We strive, very hard to stay away from marginal products.

Perhaps my views on "being seen" are a little different than most, since I have over 700 hours of night time flying, as the pilot.

Trust me, I am game for being well seen at night, especially in the sky.

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@ Andy actually I got my lights (and a bunch of other stuff) from you! Greg and I got into a little debate over LED vs bulb but style beat function. The LEDs at your shop are nice and about the same price as the bulbs. But just cant get past the look of LEDs on a vintage trailer. To each his own.
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Hey Marzboy...congrats on the amazing progress!! Excited to see you're reaching the "I smell elephant burger" phase of a process that's not quick, not easy but oh so rewarding!! Totally agree re: Greg @ Inland RV....he's awesome. Hope to see you on the road sometime soon
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Hey Marzboy...congrats on the amazing progress!! Excited to see you're reaching the "I smell elephant burger" phase of a process that's not quick, not easy but oh so rewarding!! Totally agree re: Greg @ Inland RV....he's awesome. Hope to see you on the road sometime soon
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Hey lady! Glad to hear from you. Cant imagine anything more time consuming and hard as those damn windows
Yep that elephant burger is almost ready, hope to see you and your man out there! Thanks again for checking in.
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Doing it! Got the last of the foam strips glued in today. Started cutting and laying in the Prodex. It was raining today and I discovered a couple leaks. Tomorrow I will be sealing the shell and taking care of the leaks before I start tapeing the insulation joints.
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So far, the least fun part of my whole rebuild was installing/taping the insulation. Hope yours goes well - it's looking good!
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So far, the least fun part of my whole rebuild was installing/taping the insulation. Hope yours goes well - it's looking good!
Thanks Vernon, the windows were my least favorite. So far I think the insulatuion isnt that bad. BUT...I havent started tapeing.
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Looking good Marz! I liked the insulating because it meant the inside skin wasn't far behind, taping the seams went very fast. You are getting closer every day!!!
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Thanks Tinman, I am chasing down the weiring and electrical soon. I need to begin the design of the electrical before I even think about the interior walls. Electrical is not my strong suit. I actually enjoy repetitive tasks like tapeing. Its kinda hypnotic
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Andy,

It is not a simple, remove the lens, replace the $1.09 bulb, and put the lens back. The whole unit must be replaced.
If anybody has LED units with dead diodes on them, I'd sure love to take a look at them. I repair / manufacture circuit boards for pinball machines, and LED's are pretty darned common for these machines these days. Same general discussions there too, as LED's are aesthetically very different. Though they tend to look better if you have units that properly diffuse the LED's, and gives you a more even lighting without clearly distinguishable LED's within the housing.

If I can figure out what makes certain units fail, I can help you guys figure out how to repair them, or which ones should just be avoided. More often than not, I find that cheapo LED units in other markets (yard/garden lamps, toys, etc...) fail due to cheap materials such as bare steel battery contacts and things like that.

At the same time, if you don't want LED's, there are some simple upgrades you can do on your existing lights to increase the brightness. The single biggest one is to paint the inside of the bulb housing with a silver paint, preferably one of those 'bumper chrome' types. I've done it on a number of cars in the past, and it makes a huge difference in increasing brightness but keeping the same tone and feel to the lamp.

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Thanks Tinman, I am chasing down the weiring and electrical soon. I need to begin the design of the electrical before I even think about the interior walls. Electrical is not my strong suit. I actually enjoy repetitive tasks like tapeing. Its kinda hypnotic
It was a challenge to figure out outlet and lite locations, I built some rough cabinets out of cardboard to help get things where we wanted them. Most all of us on here have a few things in our project that we are not to excited or knowledgeable about doing but it is good to know most answers can be found here! I liked the new look of the insulation inside even if it is a while before the skins go back, it seemed so long that the trailer did not change even though it seems we work on them all the time! Toastie had some good wiring diagrams on his project if you read through, I can look up the link if you want, I think I have a few of his pages tagged.
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