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11-28-2010, 10:45 PM
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Thanks Chris, Im gonna have to raise the shell a bit more tomorrow. If that doesnt work I will have to let some air out of the tires. Do you have any pics of your spacers? Kinda bummed on the skins.
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11-29-2010, 12:05 AM
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I was looking for pictures but couldn`t find any. basically I used pieces of 2x6 mounted vertically between the cribbing and the 4x4`s. They were about 2 ft long. I used carriage bolts through the 2x6 spacers and the cribbing and longer carriage bolts through the 4x4`s and the spacers. Does your c channel stay attached to the end caps. I also added a piece of 2x4 to the bottom of the channel so the shell could sit on the 4x4`s and clear the skins. I think your skins hang farther over the sides than mine.
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11-29-2010, 09:01 AM
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Unfortunately Chris in order to get the trailer off the frame the saw horses have to be where they are. I am going to see if I can beef up the area on the end caps to see if I can use that for the stands. My c channel stayed on the floor. I think the skins on mine hang down further than most that I have seen. Always a challenge and today is suppose to be windy, yeah.
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11-29-2010, 01:30 PM
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I think the extra skins is for the belly wrap, correct? I you just leave about 12" or so and then trim the rest off, you should be much better off with the skins... and then use on big piece of bellywrap to seal up the bottom when you're done. I'd hate to see the skins rip up the sides. before you pull the trailer out, jack up your cross pieces from the wood floor, and then fashion some 4x4 spacers under the c-channel or where ever those horses are resting on to get them off the skins some more.
Also, if it's going to be windy, stake that puppy down.. you don't want it flying away from you!
Going well otherwise!
Marc
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11-30-2010, 09:34 AM
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@ Marc actually the extra skin is part of the side panels. Airstream construction is not very consistent. I have taken out a few more rivets just to ease the stress on the shell for now. I also beefed up the cribbing to keep the ribs in place. You cant see it, but the rear street side back support was completely gone. So when I popped the shell off it was pretty lopsided. Hopefully this weekend I will roll the trailer out and start working on the frame. Here are a couple obligatory banana wrap before pics....
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12-05-2010, 10:23 PM
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The shell is off! Thank God! Thanks to my friend Bob we did it. Tomorrow I will be getting to the frame if weather allows.....
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12-05-2010, 11:15 PM
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Congrats Marzboy! The shell looks much better now. Are you doing a whole new frame or just repairs? One look tells me that your'e doing a new floor though. It should only be a couple of months and it will be back together. It's interesting to watch because the construction method is quite different than a 70's model. I know every inch of mine now because I built most of it myself. I'm still trying to get it selaed up for winter. Another week should do it I hope. The snow is starting to come now and I'm running out of time. I'll keep watching and offer tips if needed.
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12-06-2010, 08:14 AM
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1965 Rehab
Javier, I forgot to give you the numbers for Mike, the welder and Murray elect, etc etc knows way more than most. Mike c-818.825.1968 o-818.713.0359 Murray c-818.404.2520 h-818.597.9871 see you soon, Kenny
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12-06-2010, 08:14 AM
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Hey Chris, yep the deed is done. I am going to add some back up supports today and start on the frame. Although the supports are beginning to remind me of the Winchester House of Mystery, overbuilding isn't bad. I'm noticing that there wasn't a lot of quality control on these late models. I saw a 65 yesterday, the guy did an incredible job. It was motivating!
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12-06-2010, 08:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kennyp315
Javier, I forgot to give you the numbers for Mike, the welder and Murray elect, etc etc knows way more than most. Mike c-818.825.1968 o-818.713.0359 Murray c-818.404.2520 h-818.597.9871 see you soon, Kenny
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Thanks Kenny! I am going to call that welder today. got the shell off last night. By the looks of things I wont be pulling that frame too far.
Call me when you find out about those tail lights.
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12-06-2010, 08:18 AM
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Javier, Here is Mike welder number c-818.825.1968 o-818.713.0359 Kenny
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12-06-2010, 10:50 PM
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Getting closer to getting the floor up. Removed all the tile and carpet and drilled out the elevator bolts (floor bolts). Uwe gave me a great idea on how to do it.
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12-08-2010, 01:04 AM
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Glad its behind me...
This weekend was very productive. Trailer and shell are seperated. Floor cleaned and removed. C channel removed (Biaaaach). Frame cleaned up and ready for welding prep. I am pretty tierd and sore, cant wait til I am done with the dirty work. Its funny, I have been re reading some of my favorite threads, they make alot more sense now.
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12-08-2010, 06:28 AM
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Hey Marzboy the frame looks to be in pretty good shape. It shouldn't take much to get it fixed.
There's nothing like doing it yourself to understand what's been written.
Excellent progress, the tired and sore part will go away in a few months at least or maybe a year once everything is done. LOL
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12-08-2010, 09:20 AM
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Bolt cutter worked well for me to get the old elevator bolts out after the wood was gone. Looks good!
Marc
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12-08-2010, 10:01 AM
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Thanks guys, you really cant see but there is some signicant damage to the frame to the rear street side, and the front where the tongue meets the frame. I was going to tow it to a welder but I am concerned about frame failure. The shell and the floor may have kept it from breaking! I am going to have a welder come out to me to check it out. It wont be impossible but it wont be simple. I am also going to box the "c" channel to stregnthen the frame. It will add a bit of weight but will be worth it.
The rest of the frame is not too bad though. Some new metal and a little por15 she will be good as new! Now I have to settle on tank design and placement....
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12-14-2010, 11:32 AM
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Advice on rear channel replacement
Today I am going to clean up the frame and plan repairs of the rear street side section. Any advice?
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01-25-2011, 07:54 PM
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Preparing to get back to work on my trailer frame. Practicing welds and teaching my stepson Craig. He is actually really good!!
If all goes well should have the frame welded by the 2nd week of Feb.
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01-25-2011, 11:40 PM
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After all your great work you will shed a tear when you realize it will all be hidden from view!You're doing a great job.Stay steady.I finished wiring runs and second cover layer of Prodex yesterday.Panels are going back in next week,and Melody Ranch is helping me do all the outlets and hook up the convertor.
Stay with it,you will be there in no time.Steve
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01-26-2011, 07:02 AM
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Hey marz glad to see you back at it, I had wondered what you were up to. Your'e lucky to have such good weather to work in and now that you have two welders in the family the work should fly along. Post some pics we'd love to see the progress.
Chris.
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