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Old 12-13-2011, 10:08 PM   #211
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With all the holidays work and bad weather I haven't got much done. But I got the lower curb side panel and quarter panel fabricated drilled and clecoed. So crazy that there are about a million tiny jobs to do before you can do the big ones!
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:46 AM   #212
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Ok with a couple hours here and there I finally got all the fabricating, sealing and buck riveting done! Boy life can sure get in the way of fun. I also did a few Olympic rivets in a spot that I couldn't buck.
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Old 12-28-2011, 10:33 AM   #213
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wow that's looking great but that in your hand isn't an olympic rivet is it? i thought they had three legs!
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Old 12-28-2011, 10:50 AM   #214
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wow that's looking great but that in your hand isn't an olympic rivet is it? i thought they had three legs!
That is an olympic that has not been pulled. Once it is inserted and pulled the "legs" will pop out. If you zoom in on the first pic you can kind of see them. They are pretty solid, more than I thought they would be. In fact I believe if they are used properly they should hold up pretty well. Here is a pic of the curb side complete.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:13 PM   #215
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Does anyone know of a template or drawing for a 67 sovreign rear bath frame support. Most of the rear frame under the bathroom is gone. I rigged a temorary fix to tow the newly purchased trailer home but need to know what metals thickness and design were originally used so I can duplicate it rather than guessing. Thanks John in South Carolina
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Old 01-09-2012, 09:21 AM   #216
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Does anyone know of a template or drawing for a 67 sovreign rear bath frame support. Most of the rear frame under the bathroom is gone. I rigged a temorary fix to tow the newly purchased trailer home but need to know what metals thickness and design were originally used so I can duplicate it rather than guessing. Thanks John in South Carolina
Hi John
Not sure what you mean by support but my bath/ shower had styrofoam under it and a frame rail inder the sink. Most of my bath was missing when I got her. If you are talking about the trailer frame itself it is the same as the rest. Pretty much looks like a ladder. Mine was missing too and had to be rebuilt. Post pics and maybe start a new thread in the appropriate forum I'm sure your question will be answered. Good luck!
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:44 PM   #217
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Got a bit done this week. Got the street side banana wrap riveted, that was surprisingly difficult. Also I rebuilt one of my windows. I had to replace four pieces of glass (two windows two fixed). Let me tell you, if you can rehab your windows without removing the glass do it. Replacing the glass is not easy. But the guy at the glass shop gave me a neat trick. Lightly mist the glass with window cleaner before you set it in the butyl tape. It gives you a little more time to reset the glass in case you don't set it right.
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:33 AM   #218
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Does anyone know of a template or drawing for a 67 sovreign rear bath frame support. Most of the rear frame under the bathroom is gone. I rigged a temorary fix to tow the newly purchased trailer home but need to know what metals thickness and design were originally used so I can duplicate it rather than guessing. Thanks John in South Carolina
I have a 68 sovereign with the floor off. I guess it may be similar. I have some photos on my thread that you may be able to make some detail out of, they were taken with my phone so they're not great.
I'm away from home right now so I can't get you any better ones, but from memory the two main frame rails go all the way back to an upside down u channel under the very rear of the shell (the shell is bolted to this). There are a couple of sections added underneath the main rails to form skid rails in case you bounce your tail in the floor. The black tank sits between the two rails under the floor. Either side there are outriggers about 18" or 2' further back than the last full width crossmember. Each of these is a solid triangle with the edges rolled over. Metal is the same thickness as elsewhere.

Pretty much you can look at the front and it's the same, but without the bits for the tongue... I'll try to get some decent photos when I'm at the trailer next..
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:54 AM   #219
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After three days of dealing with my windows I have learned:
1) Silicone sucks!
2) I am defiantly not a detail person
3) Glass is rarely salvageable
4) It is always much worse than you thought.
So I have two windows complete out of ten (complete with bulb seal), one picture window in out of three installed, four broken frames re welded, five windows siliconed so bad I had to clean each frame three times, all window openings cleaned and prepped for window install and went thru 50' of glazing tape and almost all of my glazing strips. Oh and be careful pressing that glazing strip in to the outside for the window frame. My hands and thumbs are pretty sore!
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:12 AM   #220
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After three days of dealing with my windows I have learned:
1) Silicone sucks!
2) I am defiantly not a detail person
3) Glass is rarely salvageable
4) It is always much worse than you thought.
So I have two windows complete out of ten (complete with bulb seal), one picture window in out of three installed, four broken frames re welded, five windows siliconed so bad I had to clean each frame three times, all window openings cleaned and prepped for window install and went thru 50' of glazing tape and almost all of my glazing strips. Oh and be careful pressing that glazing strip in to the outside for the window frame. My hands and thumbs are pretty sore!
I will second all of your points!!! I was pretty tired of windows by the time I was done. Your frames are cleaning up very nice. I also got some of those cleaning wheels like you have on the drill but they didn't seem to do anything for me? I like watching your progress.

I really hate silicone and black tar
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:41 AM   #221
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Keep it up Jav,
You are in the window black hole. But, you'll be out soon. Amazing how much time and effort windows can take. You are doing great. It'll all be worth it.
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After three days of dealing with my windows I have learned:
1) Silicone sucks!
2) I am defiantly not a detail person
3) Glass is rarely salvageable
4) It is always much worse than you thought.
So I have two windows complete out of ten (complete with bulb seal), one picture window in out of three installed, four broken frames re welded, five windows siliconed so bad I had to clean each frame three times, all window openings cleaned and prepped for window install and went thru 50' of glazing tape and almost all of my glazing strips. Oh and be careful pressing that glazing strip in to the outside for the window frame. My hands and thumbs are pretty sore!
Just having completed a complete overhaul on all our windows, we can say we understand. It took a lot longer than we expected but I have to admit I liked the cleaning part of each window. I guess it is futzing with each little area that keeps me out of trouble. Now that we are done with that, I am trying to be as interested in getting the 68 tubes worth of silicone someone decided was a good idea off the outside of the windows. That is a royal pain and having tried everything under the sun to get it off, still haven't figured out a good method. I did order some silicone caulk remover from VTS so hopefully that is the magic cure I need. I have run out of fingernails at this point and look like I must chew my nails all the time.

I keep reminding myself that every step completed is one more step closer to camping. Are you going to polish your window frames before you put them back or wait until later? You are doing well and I enjoy watching your progress.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:36 AM   #223
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I also got some of those cleaning wheels like you have on the drill but they didn't seem to do anything for me?
The disc's pictured work better if used in twos and threes and they need better then 10k rpm to really work well. I use a 20k rpm 90 degree die grinder. They are also directional.
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Thanks guys I was wondering if I was just being a baby. I still have to rebuild most of my windows and put bulb gaskets in all but one frame. Any advice? Tips? What steps did you guys take? I had two windows caulked in so bad those took almost one day!
@Sandy that silicone remover from VTS works pretty good. But it is a bit thick, so be patient. Also you may need more than one application. I polished the windows a bit, not sure if I will get to crazy though. Any tips?
@ Kip Thanks by the way for the tool tip. I had to cut into the groove of the window so only one would fit. It worked well on what looked like painters caulking in the window frame. I will try it with my die grinder on the vents and vent covers.
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