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07-17-2015, 04:19 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 141
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Which would you rather own and why?
Thinking of getting one of these.
I already have and will keep my Airstream interstate .
It will be towed with my truck.
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07-17-2015, 05:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,346
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It doesn't matter which one I'd want to own. What matters is which one you want.
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07-17-2015, 05:50 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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You should consider finding an Airstream dealer that has both of these models in stock. Go there and spend some time sitting in each and see how they feel in person. You will be much better equipped to make an informed decision.
Do you plan to tow one of these with your Interstate?
Good luck in your quest.
Brian
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07-17-2015, 07:24 PM
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begorragirl
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Denville
, New Jersey
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,029
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Top one, I think it is wider.
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07-17-2015, 07:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,969
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Actually the 22 has a wider and longer bed, but the actual trailer is narrower.
We just bought our 22 yesterday (YIPPIE) and we liked the bed size, counter space in kitchen, and bathroom layout and operable window in the bathroom.
We looked at the 20 last summer, and it is a very nice kitchen, but the bed is smaller than the 22. And it is a more costly unit as it is not a Sport.
If you want a real oven that would be a reason to get the 20.
If kitchen storage is your priority, that would be a reason to get the 20.
If you want 2 windows over the dinette, that would be a reason to get the 20.
If you like the trim level overall of the Flying Could vs the Sport, that would be a reason to get the 20.
If you want a wider and longer bed, that would be a reason to get the 22.
If you want a bit larger bathroom with an operable window, that would be a reason to get the 22.
If you want a narrower trailer to tow, that would be a reason to get the 22.
And obviously there is a substantial price difference if buying new.
They both have nice front-to-back line of sights and good cross ventilation.
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07-18-2015, 08:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Oracle
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,174
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Like Piggy Bank says. And you will get slightly better gas mileage. We love ours and put on more than 40k on it.
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07-18-2015, 09:26 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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The Flying Cloud has a very similar layout to our vintage 1956 Safari - just reversed front to back. I love it - it is a near perfect two-person trailer. The only layout complaint I have is with the kitchen & bathroom co-located, we sometimes have to do a bit of do-si-do side-stepping to get out of the way of each other in the kitchen/bath. Of course, our Safari is narrower than either of these.
Shari
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07-18-2015, 10:29 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2010 20' Flying Cloud
Hailey
, Idaho
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 414
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Just got back from a 7,168 mile/ 5 week camping trip with our 20ft FC....I am 6'6" and can stretch out completely on Daisy's bed. Now, if you're taller than 6'6"......jon
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07-18-2015, 10:44 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Watertown
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 270
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We have the 20'
We have the 20' one (bottom layout) and love it. What sold me was the kitchen layout. For the life of me I don't understand how anyone manages to cook a dinner in the layout like the top picture.
Also, given how little floor space you get in any RV, the bottom layout allows for way fewer "collisions" because the cook can work at the end of the trailer and the other person can lay down, sit at the dinette, or use the bathroom without making the cook move to get out of the way. That is my main problem with a kitchen in the middle of the trailer - the traffic pattern is a problem always. Also, we have added a lot of extra storage space to our trailer because the 20' has many such possibilities.
As for the bed length, the little hampers at the head and foot of the bed are just a little bit above the level of the bed, so you can technically put your pillow on top of the hamper and get back that extra length. The hamper area at the foot of the bed is a little bit harder to use because you tuck the sheets, etc., into the end of the bed. I guess you could get a foam topper and put it over the whole length and over both hampers. . . . .
We use both beds because we also sleep with our dogs, and that works well.
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07-18-2015, 10:53 AM
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worried...happy...wo...ha
2015 25' FB International
Menlo Park
, California
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 213
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We had the 20' with the "large" kitchen (bottom layout). We bought it because of the kitchen and the counterspace, double sink, etc. Also the traffic issue mentioned above is pretty good in the 20, but the 22 is not bad for this either. We loved our 20FC but after 1 ½ years, 15K miles and about 80 nights with two large dogs, we realized that we hated to convert the dinette every night to create a lounge area for our dogs. We recently upgraded to a 25FB International, which has a lounge area. If it is only 2 people, both layouts are quite nice. Friends have upper layout and it is not bad at all either. Ultimately, it is a compromise - you just have to figure out which compromise suits your style.
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07-18-2015, 11:01 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 141
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Would you recommend new or used and if used, how old would you go?
Now leaning towards 22 thank you all.
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07-18-2015, 11:02 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 141
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I also like the bench with flip down tables that the older 22 had.
Gave a more open feel and room for better lounging.
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07-18-2015, 11:39 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Watertown
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 270
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one flaw
Although we like our 20', one major layout flaw is that they they placed the head of the bed on the door side, which is also where the TV is (over the refrigerator). That means that you can't lay in bed and watch TV because the closet is in the way. We added reading lights at the foot of the bed (there is an outlet) and modified the quilt so that we could reverse the foot and head of the bed. Now we can lay in bed and watch TV.
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07-18-2015, 12:27 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1969 25' Tradewind
Fairport
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5
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20 Safari
If you end up liking the 20 ft, rear kitchen d use dinette version, I have a nearly new condition 2008 safari 20 I'm selling.
Layout looks identical, I think.
I solved the tv viewing from the bed problem by mounting it on the dinette / bath wall.
Works for me but I'm a hermit.
good luck on your search and decision.
jj
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07-18-2015, 01:32 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Hahira
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 176
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Sport 22
I will be posting my 2014 sport on the classified section shortly. I moved up a few feet. I like the long bed and the full width bathroom and the width for pulling. For some reason, I was told they do not need segment protectors because of the width. Not true. I just added them.
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07-18-2015, 01:39 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1958 22' Caravanner
Plattsmouth
, Nebraska
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 166
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Need double sink? Need 3 burners? Want a crowded bath? Want a dinette table which is not very central to kitchen for food prep? Is dinette seating for only 2 persons O K ? Do you not want a privacy curtain for the bedroom? Do you not need a night stand for a flat screen? Want a cramped and closed in floor plan? Want a shorter but wider trailer? Want to spend more money? Want a bed configuration creating a more difficult crawl over? If you want all these (negative) things, then buy the 20 footer!! For me, the 20 foot Flying Cloud is not even remotely interesting nor would I even consider it!!! But I am too proud of my 1958 22' Caravanner, gutted, and redesigned like no other Airstream ever built. Weighs 2180#
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07-18-2015, 01:42 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2014 22' FB Sport
York
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 14
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What is a "segment protector"?
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07-18-2015, 04:06 PM
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The SilverSleeper
2001 28' Excella
2005 25' Classic
1988 23' Excella
Daphne
, Alabama
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 210
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Our condo
We choose the 1992 Sovereign 21ft it is the smallest Airstream with twin axels. It's 3,900lbs and we get 17mpg in the 55 to 60mph range and it drops to about 15mpg in the mountains and also 65 to 75mph range. The Sprinter 2500 has the 5 cylinder Mercedes eng.and we can't tell the Airstream is back there. This is a great combination.
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07-18-2015, 04:52 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Argyle
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 96
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You do not want any travel trailer with a kitchen in the back. Too rough and I don't care what brand it is.
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07-18-2015, 06:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Watertown
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 270
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Kitchen in the back - rough?
What does that mean? (Kitchen in the back - rough?)
And what are "segment protectors"?
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