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Old 08-10-2008, 11:18 PM   #15
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The Switcheroo

So we WERE looking at a 2006 23' safari but that has changed. This is really a roller-coaster. We initially went there looking at a 1946 Burdette b/c we could afford the 4k and it looked light enough for a Ford Ranger to pull. The Burdette is in GREAT shape for a '46- especially on the inside, but the outside needs new paint and the old paint (probably lead) removed. WE don't have a yard to do this in, so it just wasn't gonna work out.

Then we looked around the lot and get infected with aluminitis
WE got an F150 so we could tow an airstream and became really serious about getting a TT.

The next weekend we go up to look at a 2005 19' safari- but it got sold. So we put a deposit on the 23' safari. This weekend we go up just to take a look at all the good things y'all have advised us on- and guess what!?!??? That original 19' was not sold- the financing fell through for the other guy and so we decided to change the deposit for the 19' safari. EEK!?!?!?! This is such an important decision, I feel MUCH better about the 19' safari b/c the door shuts correctly and we couldn't find anything leaking. There are two slightly darker spots on the ceiling carpet but the sales guy doubts its a leak. We'll have 'em check it out- but this is really starting to feel RIGHT!
Thanks for all your help. See 'ya on the Road!
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Old 08-10-2008, 11:30 PM   #16
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So we WERE looking at a 2006 23' safari but that has changed. This is really a roller-coaster. We initially went there looking at a 1946 Burdette b/c we could afford the 4k and it looked light enough for a Ford Ranger to pull. The Burdette is in GREAT shape for a '46- especially on the inside, but the outside needs new paint and the old paint (probably lead) removed. WE don't have a yard to do this in, so it just wasn't gonna work out.

Then we looked around the lot and get infected with aluminitis
WE got an F150 so we could tow an airstream and became really serious about getting a TT.

The next weekend we go up to look at a 2005 19' safari- but it got sold. So we put a deposit on the 23' safari. This weekend we go up just to take a look at all the good things y'all have advised us on- and guess what!?!??? That original 19' was not sold- the financing fell through for the other guy and so we decided to change the deposit for the 19' safari. EEK!?!?!?! This is such an important decision, I feel MUCH better about the 19' safari b/c the door shuts correctly and we couldn't find anything leaking. There are two slightly darker spots on the ceiling carpet but the sales guy doubts its a leak. We'll have 'em check it out- but this is really starting to feel RIGHT!
Thanks for all your help. See 'ya on the Road!
Ron
Yea! You are really going to like towing the 19'...of course we are slightly skewed towards the 19'ers. And if you are more comfortable with it, then that's what you should do, right!? Congrats and keep us posted...
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:24 AM   #17
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Yea! You are really going to like towing the 19'...of course we are slightly skewed towards the 19'ers. And if you are more comfortable with it, then that's what you should do, right!? Congrats and keep us posted...
Yes, we plan on doing a lot of boondocking and like the idea of being more flexible about where we can go. I will also be fulltiming it for a while as well- maybe even as long as 3 years depending on the job and what happens with my wife moving and such. I'm used to small spaces and it beats paying rent!

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Old 08-11-2008, 01:05 AM   #18
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Hi, I'm a day late and a dollar short, but I will give a few of my opinions on what I've read so far. As for an automotive type latch, I will agree that Like the Fords I've worked on, that the latch has a round striker plate and a double latching mechanism. Meaning two things: (1.) The latch locks in two steps, the second being completely closed. (2.) The latch has a top and bottom cog that surrounds the round striker plate. As compared to an ordinary house or antique RV latch that has a spring loaded tongue that slides into a square hole type striker plate.

My trailer door was hard to close and sometimes had to be slammed, more so if the trailer was tweeked. I asked for it to be adjusted, but in reality, nothing was done except maybe some useless lube. After adjusting thousands of car doors [exageration] I decided to do it myself and do it right. First off, the striker plate was too short or was hitting the inside of the latch cogs; So it needed to be spaced out. I removed the striker plate and added a flat washer to give it the needed clearance. Next the striker plate has to be at the same height as the latch; So the striker needs to move up or down to hit dead center on the latch. Next the striker needs to be adjusted inward or outward so the door will close completely and not be overly tight or loose when the latch has reached it's second click. Note: Very important message; The nut plate holding the striker plate is locked in place by a rivet. If you remove this rivet and the striker plate at the same time, the nut plate will fall inside of the body. [now you are in trouble] The hole for the striker plate, on mine was not drilled or punched out, but very crudely hogged out. I loosened the striker plate, drilled out the rivet holding the nut plate, adjusted the striker plate to a perfect position, tested several times, and finally I re-drilled the nut plate and installed a screw to hold it in place. Now my trailer door closes as good as any car door, or as good as my Lincoln or my wife's BMW. Come on by and see for yourself.

As for the purchase price, never pay what they are asking, especially now with sales so slow. Make sure everything you see is fixed before you buy it. If you fail to get the price down, make them, at least, give you the hitch, brake controller, or both installed free.
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:05 AM   #19
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P.S. You will find that wherever you go, you will get lots of lookers and unsolicited compliments...and people just walking up to you as you gas up somewhere and wanting to know all about it...How big is it, How heavy is it? How does it tow? Do you like it?...etc, etc etc...it's a hoot. (This also serves you well because it gives you incentive to keep it tidy inside so that you can show it off at a moment's notice... This has worked out well for us because with the limited space it's much roomier if it's tidy with stuff put away when you're done with it.)
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Hi, I'm a day late and a dollar short, but I will give a few of my opinions on what I've read so far.

As for the purchase price, never pay what they are asking, especially now with sales so slow. Make sure everything you see is fixed before you buy it. If you fail to get the price down, make them, at least, give you the hitch, brake controller, or both installed free.
Thanks, all the opinions have been very helpful.

It is interesting that you mention the not paying the price they ask. We have found that the NADA value is 2k less than what the dealer is asking. That's not so bad until you figure in tax, tags, brake controller, and pre-delivery inspection- which add up to about 3k- so now we're 5k above what the bank thinks this thing is worth.
They said we were getting such a great deal that they couldn't put the brake controller, the hitch, or the install in the deal. Well the bank didn't see it that way.

What to do, oh, what to do?

We'll keep y'all posted about the deal and the dealer. If they get it right and treat us well- we'll let you know-- if not, their loss.


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pre-delivery inspection- which add up...
well there isn't much a vehicle dealer can do about YOUR taxes or tags or insurance or parking or maintenance expenses...

BUT charging for a 'pre-delivery inspection' on a USED trailer?

that's bologna!

very few dealers charge for the pdi on NEW units...

but doing so on a used unit is just tacking on.

they have a responsibility and obligation to inspect all used trailers for issues, defects and road worthiness.

they can sell it "as is" without repairing those things, but they do have an obligation to inspect it, disclose issues...

and offer assurance that the unit is safe for use and roadworthy...

don't know who this dealer is or where they are, but i can suggest that there are MANY dealers who will NOT operate this way.

forget the unit and start looking for a better dealer/buying experience.

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Old 08-15-2008, 10:03 AM   #22
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On the edge of the diving board....

So it looks like we are going to jump in
I got a bit upset when the bank came up with an NADA value less then the asking price of the bambi. I wouldn't walk into a car dealership and say- hey I'll give you 2k over the bluebook value of that used car . But this is the model we like and it is in GREAT shape so we are gonna go for it!
I talked to the dealer, after my wife tried- but she was too upset to make any sense, and they will not charge us for a "pre-delivery" inspection or walk-through. We will pay for the hitch and give them the same price we discussed last week.

Thanks for all the advise along the way! We'll make sure to take some pictures of our trips and post em.

YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEE

We pick 'er up tomorrow!!!!

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good follow up ron

buying is a contact sport and so long as no blood is shed...

it reads like u aren't excited much about this new toy....

enjoy!

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Congratulatsions, Ron! Let the good times roll! Have a blast picking up your new toy this weekend!

Hope to see you down the road...
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Saving money is sometimes NOT an obvious thing.

I rarely boondock, and never look for the $9 per night campgrounds - and I pay to have a lot of maintenance done that I COULD do myself. Work I'll pay for? Install a 2nd fantastic, even having the thing washed and detailed now and then, having the hubs lubed, etc. Next time I go to Ohio I'll have JC reseal all of the roof seams as good preventative maintenance. I am lucky to spend most of my time at a condo campground which has obscenely low costs ($1500 per year with the ability to stay on-site 30 weeks per year).

In spite of all of that, what the average homeowner or renter spends $1500 to $3000 per month to live... It takes me four to six months to go through that amount! That being said, If you pay $2000 too much for your twinkie and full time in it for two months, voila, you're at break even time. Fulltime for six months and you're ahead of the game.

Now don't even get me started at the number of RV's you see sitting in storage for years.... arrrgh... just made someone else very happy by selling my 22 CCD... making me happy by (a) knowing it's gone to a good home and (b) making me happy that I'm not letting it waste away as an occasional "guest house"

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Saving money is sometimes NOT an obvious thing.

I rarely boondock, and never look for the $9 per night campgrounds - and I pay to have a lot of maintenance done that I COULD do myself. Work I'll pay for? Install a 2nd fantastic, even having the thing washed and detailed now and then, having the hubs lubed, etc. Next time I go to Ohio I'll have JC reseal all of the roof seams as good preventative maintenance. I am lucky to spend most of my time at a condo campground which has obscenely low costs ($1500 per year with the ability to stay on-site 30 weeks per year).

In spite of all of that, what the average homeowner or renter spends $1500 to $3000 per month to live... It takes me four to six months to go through that amount! That being said, If you pay $2000 too much for your twinkie and full time in it for two months, voila, you're at break even time. Fulltime for six months and you're ahead of the game.

Now don't even get me started at the number of RV's you see sitting in storage for years.... arrrgh... just made someone else very happy by selling my 22 CCD... making me happy by (a) knowing it's gone to a good home and (b) making me happy that I'm not letting it waste away as an occasional "guest house"

Paula

Thanks Paula,

We try to save money but emphasize quality over qantity- which is why we went with the airstream to begin with. And we plan to use it!!!!!!!!!
This isn't some collector's item to sit in the drive-way (first of all we don't have a drive-way b/c we live in a tiny condo complex). And second of all we travel so much for our jobs, that after thinking about it, it just seemed to make good sense to have a home that could travel with us.
We decided not to worry about a few dinges here and there, and even the little corrosion on the door handle- we're just gonna enjoy our new Bambi and all the beauty and wonder of nature in the outdoor places we will be.

Thanks for all the advise along the way--Ps. The dealer did come through- we didn't pay the PDI but we did pay for the break controller. We stuck to the original price negotiated and feel pretty good about it. We looked all over the web and coulddn't find anything in that's a 2005 with a fantastic fan and solar panels for less. So I do think we got a great deal.


See ya' down the road or in the forest!

Ron

Pss. Southwest Coaches does an EXTRAORDINARY job with the walk-through. Aaron, the mechanic is a wealth of knowledge. He literally grew up at Travelland. His whole family works there and he knows these aristreams inside and out. If you have a maintenance issue or need repairs in the SoCal area- check them out!
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