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Old 09-09-2013, 07:00 PM   #29
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A few thoughts:

The 2001 is probably priced a few thousand dollars too high, but I'm sure there's some haggling room there. That said, if kept in good condition, it's probably pretty close to being fully depreciated.

The 1979 looks mighty nice. You need to make sure the floor and frame are solid though. There are a few nice features in this trailer, like fully-opening windows, that the 2001 Safari doesn't have.

Personally, having both done extensive work to a vintage trailer and owning a newer one, I'd buy the newest one you can afford. (I'd actually be tempted to look for a 25' with the front panoramic windows, but that's another hunt.) The likelihood of big "surprises' is less with the newer trailer - but realize that there would still be repairs and upgrades you'd want to make before setting off on the big trip.

Good luck!
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Old 09-09-2013, 07:36 PM   #30
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Another reason to get a newer trailer is the smell. Hard to get that old trailer smell out unless you gut the thing and get all the wet fiberglass out of the floor and walls.

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Old 09-09-2013, 10:31 PM   #31
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A few thoughts:

The 2001 is probably priced a few thousand dollars too high, but I'm sure there's some haggling room there. That said, if kept in good condition, it's probably pretty close to being fully depreciated.

The 1979 looks mighty nice. You need to make sure the floor and frame are solid though. There are a few nice features in this trailer, like fully-opening windows, that the 2001 Safari doesn't have.

Personally, having both done extensive work to a vintage trailer and owning a newer one, I'd buy the newest one you can afford. (I'd actually be tempted to look for a 25' with the front panoramic windows, but that's another hunt.) The likelihood of big "surprises' is less with the newer trailer - but realize that there would still be repairs and upgrades you'd want to make before setting off on the big trip.

Good luck!
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Tom makes a lot of good points. Windows that open all the way are important to me. If they don't open all the way, it doesn't seem like they should be in an Airstream. That is a cost cutting measure.

I wish I was out there with you and could look at both of them with you. You might try to find an Airstream inspector to tag along with you.

Maybe you should widen your search.

Another option is just to buy the 01, start traveling and living in it. You will quickly find out what works for you and your wife and what does not. Then when you figure out what you really want, go find it (take your time) and sell the 01. Since your are buying it at a low price, it should be easy to sell and get your money out of it. I really think this is what I might do if I were you. But I am not, you need to make your own decision.

Good luck and have fun. I don't think you can make a bad decision here.

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Old 09-10-2013, 01:40 AM   #32
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Since you are planning to full time in your choice, I promote the 2001 for the added space and much larger tanks. Life is a little easier when you don't have to use a honey wagon or drag your trailer to the dump location in Nat'l and State parks without sewer lines located at your site. Inspect and evaluate the maintenance completed, then haggle on price and be happy wherever you end up as the price is not far off market if it is in great to excellent condition.
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:25 AM   #33
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The seller of the 01 is an active member on this forum - I recognize the barn from a storage thread. That trailer has been well looked after.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:01 AM   #34
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Both my grandfather and father retired their silver trailers at age 75. I'd go with the newer one. And the TV can be modded by advice from Andrew Thomson at Can Am RV (Andrew_T).

Use your mech experience to find and use best techs to your satisfaction . . and camp!!

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Old 09-11-2013, 06:36 AM   #35
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Another thing to add - the weight difference between these two trailers probably isn't that much in reality. Older Airstream factory weight tables did not include options, like air conditioning. In contrast, A/C is standard on the newer trailers...

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Old 09-11-2013, 09:44 AM   #36
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I really appreciate the helpful input here. A major concern I have had about a newer AS is the additional weight as I would like to use my ML500 as the tow vehicle. That concern has been put to rest. I sent a message to Andy at Can-Am as many have recommended (thank you Dan and Slowmover) and he kindly responded. He describes it as a great tow vehicle with a practical limit of 7,000 pounds. What a relief.

He sent me an interesting article that he has written about these that finally answers the question why they are rated at 5,000 lbs. in the U.S. and 7,000 lbs. in Europe and what's behind the disagreement on using weight distribution hitches on monocoque construction.

That, combined with the informed input I have received here, is swinging me back sharply to a newer one. Lord knows I'm vintage myself, maybe a good reason to have a non-vintage trailer.

I hope to meet many of you on the road in person. If all goes well we will be heading South out of Bend in January to parts as yet unspecified.

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Old 09-11-2013, 12:08 PM   #37
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Get you an old one as a fun project and actually use the new one.

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Old 09-11-2013, 12:20 PM   #38
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Get you an old one as a fun project and actually use the new one.

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I evidently have an OK tow vehicle, but I doubt it will tow TWO of them !

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Old 09-11-2013, 12:42 PM   #39
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Well I was not suggesting you make a silver bullet train. One at a time is enough. For some reason, I am envisioning a tourist trap on route 66 with a train made up of Airstream trailers for the cars.

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Old 09-11-2013, 12:51 PM   #40
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Get you an old one as a fun project and actually use the new one.

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Perry, I believe they want to tour the USA in an Airstream, not be stuck at home working on one, like many of us are.

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Old 09-11-2013, 01:03 PM   #41
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I've been following this thread because I have a 76 year model trailer and sometimes look at and long for the years 2000's models. At this point I have refurbished about 85% of it so will probably use it for next few years then decide. I can always find a newer one, and I have so many custom design features I have added to mine its very personalized to my needs and tastes.

I don't think you could go wrong with either one. Aage made some good points. I think you might have more room to talk the price down given the current ownership situation the older one. You can polish it yourself and use about $1500 of your savings as a DIY axle project.

The newer one will probably not have as many things that need replacing, but assuming you could buy the old one for 10-11k or the newer one for 18-19k you can do a lot with the 8000-10000 in savings, even buy an older 7.3L F250 diesel as dedicated tow vehicle if you want.
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:07 PM   #42
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I've had a 72 Tradewind (it was stolen) and then moved on to my 06 Safari. If you love fixing and refurbishing or just the vintage look then a Tradewind is great. Much lighter than a newer trailer. I will say that in the past 40 years Airstream has made some nice improvements. The same 25' is a lot mode comfortable to sit sleep in. Yes it's heavier but everything about it is better. Still long for a vintage trailer sometimes but it's hard to find the right one in the right condition.
Just curious- Why is the newer one better to sleep in? Is it true the safari windows don't open? thanks
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