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Old 05-10-2007, 01:00 PM   #15
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I agree with Cammur. A couple years ago, I decided to buy the RVCG CD as a tool to help me. After all, I knew zip about RVs then and thought this would be a good place to start. Its cost was insignificant compared to the cost of even a cheap used RV. I looked at many of the RVs he rated highly, and their build quality was heads and shoulders above other brands I had looked at. Yes, even Airstream. The only thing I didn't like about them was their weight. 2000 pounds heavier then a similar sized Airstream. Iím sure the weight and cargo capacities influences his towing rating.

If someone as information pointing to RVCG being biased or influenced by RV companies, please tell me. Lets put our brand loyalty aside for a moment. If they are scammers, I would like to know and do something about it.

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Old 05-10-2007, 01:56 PM   #16
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glad to hear

Thanks for responses, I'm glad to know that Airstreams tow the way they look they would... I don't think the rvc info is a scam, I just think it is based on the limited info the manufacturer shares and that could be True or false as well. I think the rvc group does a great job in educating the public. I think their info on motorhomes is great with concern for chasis length and overloading, poor balance etc. The tow vehicle info is valuable and seems to concur with most of you. Maybe they don't have enough info to really rate the trailers. It seems true that the highly rated trailers are big heavy boxes and so the ratings do not take into account air resistance which has to be one of the most important factors in towing a trailer. We have had box trailers that swayed, wobbled and bounced. We had motorhomes that were ok but we probably overloaded them with 3 kids and stuff. Our easiest tow was our little Casita, nice and rounded and egg shaped. So we do appreciate the rounded streamline of the Airstream and will continue to pursue it as our first choice. At this point in life we want to be surrounded by good design, be comfortable and travel with ease -Does that sound like an Airstream?

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Old 05-10-2007, 02:54 PM   #17
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No Problem Towing 25' FB SE

We just completed a 4800 mile excursion of the southwest towing our 25' FB SE.
My TV is an F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Turbo Diesel.

There was absolutly no problems what-so-ever. It towed as well as the Coleman pop-up I used to own. When towing from Williams, AZ to the Grand Canyon we had very high cross-winds. A ranger at GC said that gusts were recorded as high as 59 mph. This posed no problem at all, even when passing monster motor homes from the opposite direction. I noticed only a very slight movement on occasion but, nothing that I wouldn't have experienced without the trailer.

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Old 05-10-2007, 03:25 PM   #18
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RV Consumer group ratings...

Have read them before and take 'em with a grain of salt. Always thought they were among the same folks who sponser RV shows around this region... always noticed Airstream left out. Seems the SOB manufacturers don't like the competition. Seems Airstream doesn't have the dealer network muscle to show their stuff at these expos. Too bd, here in Austin, a good dealership show at one would most definitly "Wow" the audience.

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Old 05-15-2007, 06:11 PM   #19
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If you study the basis for the ratings by the RVCG I believe that you'll find that the number one reason the Airstream rates so low is because of their CCG or "cargo carrying capacity." That, and nothing more. I believe that their thinking is that the trailer can be overloaded, or improperly loaded, too easily - which is, in itself, a fact. An Airstream trailer is not designed, or intended, to be used as a cargo trailer - unlike the vast majority of SOBs. Over the years, many thousands of Airstream owners have been able to get along just fine with the available CCG - but overload it and you'll wreck it! There are 30' conventional SOB trailers out there that boast of having a capacity in excess of 4000 lbs and, as for 5th-wheel trailers, the sky is often the limit. An Airstream, when properly loaded and matched to it's tow vehicle, is nothing but a pure joy to tow - whereas many of the SOB rigs compare favorably to underpowered, overloaded, poorly balanced, non-aerodynamic, commercial tractor-trailer rigs. Did I offend anyone???

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Old 05-15-2007, 07:17 PM   #20
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:34 AM   #21
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The only other trailer that tracked better than our 23 foot Safari LS was a 6 foot U Haul. The U Haul cost a lot less to rent in the short run, but lacked the windows. Both had aluminum construction. Parked side by side I can tell the difference. Towing, I would have to look in the rear view mirror.

Seriously. Without water tank filled, easy effortless tow for the 2006 Tundra. With water tank full in a Wyoming head wind, very stable and you will experience less vacuum tug when an 18 wheeler passes you with the wind on their side. I keep my stabilizer handy, and have used it only once in a strong Wyoming cross wind on I-80. That was my first trip towing anything bigger than a U Haul trailer, last year. When the winds are "brisk" I top the 30 gallon water tank off. When there are minimal winds on a long drive from point A to B, no water until I am in my general area for rockdocking.
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:45 AM   #22
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I would be wondering who is feeling threatened by the Airstream....and what person greased their palm....and even if it was true >>>>I am not sure that would stop me from buying one.. and by the way I just did...the '07 Saf 25' SS SE L- lounge...I find it hard to believe that after all these years ...Airstream suddenly had a brain fart in their design! and honestly if the wheels fall off mine I will buy a flat bed trailer and set it on top...the only other trailer I have considered was the Bigfoot...well made etc...but that was very short lived....memory lane never apeared while I was in it....nor do I care for the interior furnishings... So I stand strong with those who defend the airstream.....
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Old 09-05-2007, 04:10 AM   #23
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A great way to compare is to spend a day at a mega RV show. We did just that. It was so big they had trams to haul you around. Food concessions and bands. We looked at all the travel trailers. Right there where you could directly compare. When all was said and done we kept coming back to the AS's. They were so much better built, and, classier.
I too had purchased the RV guide. Look at some of the units they rated at or above AS. You will be baffled at the guide's conclusions.
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:01 PM   #24
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Cannot recommend RV Consumer Group publications

Originally Posted by 2airishuman View Post
hi mjbear...
explore a little more deeply...
1. who
2. what
is the rvcg. my conclusion, their data is less than useless, but exactly what might be expected. after understanding #1 and #2.
no need to spend ANY money at their website either...
Wish I had read this first. I spent the $85 for the latest "Towable Rating Reports (2011-2019) plus 3 Best-Selling Books PLUS". I found the information of no value to me. When stated my displeasure, Andy said
"Gus - first of all, in Towables we rate the Brands (such as the entire Escape brand). As a technician, which you appear to be, you should have looked at the entire Sample Report and you'd have noticed the Length is a size range and we give averages for the series, which is the way that RV manufacturers have switched to (series).
We never apologize for our product or services because we are not ashamed of the information we provide. We regret you are not a happy camper but we certainly hope you take some of our advice in our publications."

As previously described before, I cannot recommend this RVCG product to anyone.

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Old 01-24-2019, 05:56 PM   #25
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At least you are not alone. I forked over my hard-earned dough for their ratings in 2004. They really had, and apparently still have, nothing good to say about Airstreams.

Fortunately, when I was shopping I met a really great guy up in Ocala that had been working on Airstreams forever. He explained the benefits of the Airstream's aerodynamics and the torsion axles, low center of gravity and the durability of all aluminum construction.

I tossed the RVCG books, bought my old Sovereign and 80000 miles plus later, it is still providing adventures.
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:08 PM   #26
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The Airstream is excellent design, very comfortable, and easy to travel with. At the moment we own two and are extremely happy. I wouldn't be comfortable towing any other brand in a similar size with our current setup of an F150.

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