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Old 04-28-2010, 09:43 PM   #1
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Quality Control Issues and you STILL bought a new AS?

I've been cruising these threads off and on for the past few months; thinking, wondering, hoping to buy a trailer sometime soon. But I've developed a real concern about AS.

It is evident that new AS have some significant quality issues. Many threads herein have discussed spydering [cracking?] of the aluminum sheathing [or is it just the clearcoat?] around curved surfaces on trailers; other threads have talked about delivery issues, leaks around penetrations, appliance mishaps, dealer disappointments. Still others have even decided they had to take their trailer back to the factory to obain satisfactory warranty service. [!!!] I think I even saw a response or two that suggested getting the parts from AS and performing teh repair yourself. None of this would be tolerated in any other purchase of this magnitude.
This on NEW trailers. NEW trailers that are more expensive per square foot than other trailers.

I get the AS mystique. [Heck, that's why I am considering one.] I get the styling. BUT, this hurdle of paying a premium for poor workmanship is starting to be an issue. [Sort of like paying for Range Rover when all rankings list it near the bottom in terms of quality control.]

So, I am curious about why, when it came right down to it, you bought an AS?
BEcause of the "cool" factor, quality be darned? Because of the "mystique" even though the dealer network seems questionable?
Do you just accept it because, well, because that's the way it is? [The "all trailers are problematic" theory of life?]

IN other words, are you going to tell me to either buy one or not but don't complain about the quality?
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:18 PM   #2
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Well , you don't have one and you are complaining so I think either way you have the complaining thing going for you and we Airstreamers have this forum where complaints are welcome.

But why I bought my AS - I have had 3 other RV's and they all had problems. I prefer the AS because even with the problems, they last a long time and hold their value real well. And they are easy to tow.

I went to the Austin RV show last month - and looked at a lot of really nice RV's. There were 5th wheel trailers with fireplaces and ceiling fans, full wet bars and handball courts inside. Gotta love those slide outs! They cost about as much as a new 25 foot Airstream. But they lack one thing: rivets.

Rivets are important because when you see them you know you have an aluminum frame and skin. Which means 25 years later you will still have your Airstream. Now I don't plan to keep my AS that long but I do expect someone will be using it so it is going to be worth more when I sell it, lowering my overall cost of camping.

Retains its value, looks cool, tows well. Works for me.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:31 PM   #3
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

Well, Bill, here's our story. We did a lot of research shopping before we bought Lucy. Lucy is a 2005 Safari 25FB that we bought new in 2006. Since then we have spent over 600 nights in Lucy and have towed her over 50,000 miles. Even though Lucy has some faults, she has performed very well. All systems have performed well under fairly heavy use.

We don't know of another brand of travel trailer that could have held up to the use that Lucy has seen. Yes, we spent $36,000 for Lucy. She is still worth $25,000. We think that this is pretty good. We could have bought a lesser travel trailer for $25,000 that would now be worth $5,000.

We think that an Airstream is worth the investment.

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Old 04-28-2010, 10:49 PM   #4
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My trailer was rolling just fine after 46 years. After my renovations it will roll just fine for another 50.

Will the beautiful 5ers with fireplaces and bathrooms larger than my brick-and-mortar master bedroom still be doing that? Not everyone values this, but it's something to consider anyway.

If you do choose to buy an Airstream, welcome to the club from a fellow Austinite!

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Old 04-28-2010, 11:20 PM   #5
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have owned plenty of travel trailers over the years.bought an airstream so that when time permits i can get out on the open road.in my opinion nothing tows like an airstream.this is my 2nd new one that i purchased and after 4 years of ownership i am still pleased with this coach.the abuse that extended travel does to trailers is pretty bad.this airstream looks as good now as the day i picked it up.
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Not trying to be a wise guy but I think it is kind of like rock and roll music and Harley Davidsons, if you have to ask........
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I bought mine for many different reasons, but two of them stand out.
1) I would rather own a "fixable" and keep until I die, unlike my friends who purchased "disposables" and replace them every 5-10 years.
2) The cool factor. Airstreams are cool and everyone knows it. Spartans are cool, Bolers are cool, many vintage trailers also are cool. If I were to get a trailer that was a big, square, vinyl box it would go against the very fiber of my being! God created me to be cool, and I do not want to disappoint Him by camping in an uncool trailer.
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Old 04-29-2010, 12:38 AM   #8
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Hi, I have worked at new car dealers that also sold motorhomes. I worked on some of them too. First time out, they would return with a list 47 items long to be repaired. Second time back, 32 Items on list. Third time back, 23 items on list. And every visit after that 10 to 15 items on list. RV's will always need some sort of attention. To own an RV you need to be an all around handyman, A carpenter / electrician / plumber / mechanic / Etc. Or Rich. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Why an Airstream? Low center of gravity, rounded body shape, and the ability to be worked on, because everything was brought in through the door and it can all be removed through the door. SOB's are stapled together and working on cabinets Etc require prying things apart. Glue and staples make things really difficult to work with. Note: I found this forum after I bought my Airstream so I had no outside influence before purchase.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:51 AM   #9
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Not trying to be a wise guy but I think it is kind of like rock and roll music and Harley Davidsons, if you have to ask........
LOL... I ride a Harley and although my taste for music includes many genres, I love God, Guns and Rock & Roll.
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Old 04-29-2010, 01:57 AM   #10
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Well, if you want the 'real' truth about AS ownership...

You don't really 'buy' one, you 'adopt' it...If you opt for a new rig, you'll have to coddle and nurture your new 'baby', possibly having to deal with a disappointment or two, as you guide it through adolescence toward maturity...

If you opt for an older 'baby', as we did, you'll find it has become comfortable with it's lifestyle, but will still require some nurturing from it's new keepers, upon occasion...

Either way, for most of the 'adopters' you read about here on Airforums, our AS's mean much more to us than just another RV parked out in the cold...

For all the Good times, as well as the bad, our Airstreams are indeed a different way of life...I'm sure our own 'Blue Halo' will still be strutin' it's stuff long after we're gone, a surviving member of our family, with perhaps a 'tear' from it's windows in the cool morning mist...

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Old 04-29-2010, 03:06 AM   #11
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I have dreamed of owning an Airstream for longer than I can remember. They always seemed like too much money to spend for a tent.

I have owned tents, a tent trailer, a box trailer and a 5th wheel. We enjoyed each experience.

About 10 years ago we quit camping altogether, bought 2 Harley's and traveled all over our beautiful country... while spending a fortune on motels.

About a year ago, I finally had to face the reality that I was just too old to be going on long adventures on a motorcycle. It was time for a change.

We decided that we wanted to get back into camping. I am the kind of fellow that doesn't like to have the same thing that everyone else has. I looked at what was out there, but nothing stirred my passion until I started to take a serious look at Airstreams.

I had wanted a vintage, but due to a few health issues I knew that I could no longer deal with the work and time I knew one of these beauties would take.

So, as funny as this may sound to some, I had to settle for a newer model.

About 6 months ago I began to shop around. For various reasons, 4 deals fell apart.

Finally, 32 days ago, I found the one we believed we would enjoy. Two days later, on April Fools Day, I bought a 2007 Classic Limited FB. I may have paid far more that I should have, but I talked them down 6K and paid 44K for a trailer and 2 years of warranty, that only 3 years ago had an MSRP of about 82K. Bottom line, I liked it, so what I paid didn't really matter all that much. Compared to what it would have cost for a Marathon motor home, that was pocket change.

I knew when I bought it that there was going to be issues, there always is with most anything you buy.

I have owned my Airstream for 29 days and I have a growing list of things to do, but none are serious or difficult to resolve.

It is not going to matter what you buy, problems are going to come to you. If I must spend money to fix something, it might as well be something I have a connection to and a passion for. After 38 years, I'll bet my wife thinks that about her experience with me. LOL

Oh, and there is that "cool" factor. ;>)

Most folks don't know this, but aluminum can make a person feel 19 again. Heck, my hair is already starting to grow back and the ladies are winking at me just like the old days. LOL

Bill, buy what you believe you are going to enjoy. What ever it is, what ever it costs, you are the guy that's going to have to be happy with it. So far, I still love mine. In 6 months, we'll see, but in my life, everything is a risk or it's not life.

In a life where death is the hunter, there is no time for regrets, only decisions.

Good luck to you.....

Dan

I still can't believe that I own an Airstream... YES, I OWN A BEAUTIFUL AIRSTREAM...
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Well, if you want the 'real' truth about AS ownership...

You don't really 'buy' one, you 'adopt' it...If you opt for a new rig, you'll have to coddle and nurture your new 'baby', possibly having to deal with a disappointment or two, as you guide it through adolescence toward maturity...

If you opt for an older 'baby', as we did, you'll find it has become comfortable with it's lifestyle, but will still require some nurturing from it's new keepers, upon occasion...

Either way, for most of the 'adopters' you read about here on Airforums, our AS's mean much more to us than just another RV parked out in the cold...

For all the Good times, as well as the bad, our Airstreams are indeed a different way of life...I'm sure our own 'Blue Halo' will still be strutin' it's stuff long after we're gone, a surviving member of our family, with perhaps a 'tear' from it's windows in the cool morning mist...

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I like that. Well said.
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Wishlists....

I'm curious....

I only deal with vintage trailers but now our towing widths have changed in the UK I am looking at 30 years of progress in the Airstream world

For those of you who have bought a newer Airstream.....
what is missing that you would dearly love to be in your trailer when you bought it 'off the shelf' so to speak...
If you could do it again with a wishlist would you make any changes or additions now you are familiar with the workings?

I'm interested in any views
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Moses, that answer was COOL! you rock man
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