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Old 08-31-2012, 02:21 PM   #15
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We factory ordered our 25' Safari FB and there was no $500 fee. In fact, since we made a cash deal, the dealer avoided flooring costs. I've factory ordered every car, truck and RV we've purchased in the last 25 years. I suspect the special order fee is designed to encourage a buyer to take something from the dealer's inventory.
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Old 08-31-2012, 02:48 PM   #16
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We factory ordered our 25' Safari FB and there was no $500 fee. In fact, since we made a cash deal, the dealer avoided flooring costs. I've factory ordered every car, truck and RV we've purchased in the last 25 years. I suspect the special order fee is designed to encourage a buyer to take something from the dealer's inventory.
The $500 charge is for ordering items that are not on the options list. There is no charge as long as you order things that are listed on the spec sheet as an option. For instance lets say I wanted closet doors with no mirrors. Since that wasn't an option, I would have had to pay $500 plus the parts and labor involved in the change. It's their way of trying to not get involved in customization. That's $500 per change, by the way.

The ordering process is very much the same as I have experienced at auto dealers.

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Old 09-01-2012, 09:21 AM   #17
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Thanks Deb,
What fabric did you use for your black out lining? There are several choices...some look easier to work with than others. Also where did you purchase the fabric? I am making new bedspreads right now so I might as well do the curtains while I'm in the mood. ;-)
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:23 PM   #18
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I would get the second AC, I have a new 2012 25' and there were a few times, I wished I had a second AC unit! I don't normally mind the heat either! Good Luck!
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:45 PM   #19
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The second A/C is questionable, but how in the heck could anyone camp without a TV?

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Old 09-02-2012, 11:59 AM   #20
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Hi Terretravels.

I have a custom home furnishings business, so I order my linings, including blackout, from my suppliers.

What I used is called "Belle Notte", which is not washable, as most other drapery fabrics are not washable. However, I recommend all of my clients run a sweeper attachment over them ocassionally. I doubt if you can locate it retail, but you might be able to, also, you could check on the internet, just google "Belle Notte drapery lining". (There are also linings which are "dim out", not totally dark, but getting towards that.)

I'm not certain how much sewing you have done, but with Belle Notte, it should be handled, as far as the machine needle is concerned, in the same manner as leather or vinyl would be...............once the needle pierces the fabric, there is a tiny hole which will be there permanently. When Belle Notte first came out, it was said to be "self healing", but you can still see a very tiny hole when held up to the light if you remove the stitching and move the stitching "line". Most of my clients are high-end (million dollar + homes), and believe they check the work out closely, so tiny holes are not a good thing; I try to be very careful in my stitching.

If you'd like more information, or would like to purchase some through me, please PM me so we don't high-jack this thread. I mentioned the blackout on here because I thought it might be of interest to some others as well.

I don't recall where you are located, but we are going to be at the Highland Haven "rally" in September (Virginia), and if you are close, you could take a look at what we have to see if you are interested in using it.

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Old 09-02-2012, 01:54 PM   #21
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The second A/C is questionable, but how in the heck could anyone camp without a TV?

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Well I could see not getting a $600 TV from Airstream and installing one that is just as good and a bigger size for $200-$250.
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:04 PM   #22
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:50 PM   #23
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Apparently everyone does not share my sense of humor. This is supposed to be a joke.

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Old 09-02-2012, 03:00 PM   #24
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I inquired about trading the FaN in on a custom order. I was interested in a slightly bigger trailer with just one twin bed. The salesman said any diversion on the assembly line was difficult. Words to the effect that it was "Bang, bang, bang, down the line they go." He said it would be easier to order the two twin beds, then have one taken out when it arrived at the dealership.

He said he would inquire and get back to me, but he never did.

So much for that. I guess I'll make the most of what I have. It's a good trailer with lots of possibilities.
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I inquired about trading the FaN in on a custom order. I was interested in a slightly bigger trailer with just one twin bed. The salesman said any diversion on the assembly line was difficult. Words to the effect that it was "Bang, bang, bang, down the line they go." He said it would be easier to order the two twin beds, then have one taken out when it arrived at the dealership.

He said he would inquire and get back to me, but he never did.

So much for that. I guess I'll make the most of what I have. It's a good trailer with lots of possibilities.
My cynical mind reads the salesman's statement as "We'll charge you as much as or more than the factory for modifying your trailer, and we'll keep all the profit here!"
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:55 AM   #26
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Cooling in hot weather

Anything you do INSIDE your windows will be 80% less efficient than anything you do outside! Parking in heavy shade is amazingly cooling, having full awnings is probably next, and putting blackout coating on the windows will help protect against heat getting into the Airstream too.

Blackout lining definitely helps some, but if you want to try an experiment, take anything reflective and lay it over one window while letting an adjacent window absorb full sun - 30 degree difference on the inside temperature on a hot day.

I once saw a vintage unit with plain old ragged beach towels laid over the windows - they had an "aluminum tent" that they'd just replaced the frame, floor and axles on, and weren't waitng to finish to go camping. I was surprised at how cool the "tent" was inside.

My Safari SE has the windows that open fully and twice this year when it's hit 109 degrees, I've taken the reflective thingies that go in the truck's windshield and popped them over the big side windows. Definitely can notice an improvement.

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