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Old 07-24-2007, 07:35 PM   #41
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Hello Michael -- Your profile says you have a 2006 F-150. Your manual would be the definitive source but a similar perspective is at 2007 F-150 specs (click on Payload Package Selector). Your truck has a maximum GVWR. You will find that emergency maneuvers and durability are enhanced if you don't exceed 85% of that GVWR. Curb weight (empty) + maximum payload = GVWR.

Figure out what aftermarket options you've added to the truck (truck cap?) and what you want to carry (driver + passengers, pets, cargo in box). Add any prospective Airstream's tongue weight -- probably add 200# for weight distribution gear, LP in the tanks, and minimal personal gear aboard - actual weighing is the only way to be sure when you are loaded camp-ready (see http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464/hitch-weight-bathroom-scale-24195.html). You need to stay honest to being within this limit, regardless of what public relations big tow capacity number comes with your package. As many of us have found, if you stay within a tow vehicle's payload capacity you'll probably rarely approach tow capacity or GCWR. Manufacturers compute these latter numbers with an un-optioned truck, almost no gas, and the lightest steeplechase rider they can put behind the wheel -- not very 'real world.'

Vintage Airstreams can be about 1000# lighter than their modern length equivalents. It would be dicey trying to tow a heavy 28'. You might need to load with some care to pull a newer 25' with a 1/2-ton truck -- just pay attention to the payload capacity and you'll be okay. I know you're putting a lot of consideration into your pursuit of the perfect Airstream for your family!

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Old 07-24-2007, 07:40 PM   #42
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Hello Michael -- Your profile says you have a 2006 F-150. Your manual would be the definitive source, but a similar perspective is at 2007 F-150 specs (click on Payload Package Selector). Your truck has a maximum GVWR. You will find that emergency maneuvers and durability are enhanced if you don't exceed 85% of that GVWR. Curb weight (empty) + maximum payload = GVWR.

Figure out what aftermarket options you've added to the truck (truck cap?) and what you want to carry (driver + passengers, pets, cargo in box). Add any prospective Airstream's tongue weight -- probably add 200# for weight distribution gear, LP in the tanks, and minimal personal gear aboard. Actual weighing is the only way to be sure of the hitch weight range when a travel trailer is loaded camp-ready (see http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464/hitch-weight-bathroom-scale-24195.html). You need to stay honest about being within this limit regardless of what public relations big tow capacity number comes with your package. As many of us have found, if you stay within a tow vehicle's payload capacity you'll probably rarely approach tow capacity or GCWR. Manufacturers compute these latter numbers with an un-optioned truck, almost no gas, and the lightest steeplechase rider they can put behind the wheel -- not very 'real world.'

Vintage Airstreams can be about 1000# lighter than their modern length equivalents. It would be dicey trying to tow a heavy 28'. You might need to load with some care to pull a newer 25' with a 1/2-ton truck -- just pay attention to the payload capacity and you'll be okay. I know you're putting a lot of consideration into your pursuit of the perfect Airstream for your family!

What engine do you have in your Ford?
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:20 AM   #43
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Hello all, please forgive me if this question is getting old however our local Airstream dealer doesn't have much in the way of inventory for us to get a feel for these beauties.

So, how does one know if a 25' model is too long or not big enough? We're hoping for weekend get-aways to week long vacations and we are a young family with one 18 month old daughter.

Also, the floor plans have me baffled a bit. We've found a nice 1999 25' Safari but the bed lay out is a twin. That does not seem romantic nor cozy. Who is this lay-out geared towards? The price is right, could one make it a double with relatively easy modifications? I assume the couch pulls out to a double but the seller hasn't confirmed that yet.

Since reading a few posts, perhaps I should be considering the CCD's also. I thought the Safari was the way to go but have been hearing good things about the CCD's. I really don't know the difference however...

Thanks for your time and I look forward to any insight.

Mike
I am trying to Reply to Mike's question. We have a 28 Argosy so we have some experience which may be helpful, if you want to contact me. I am having difficulty getting a reply out to you.
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:21 PM   #44
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Hi Jean...I picked up a 28' Safari in Holland, Mi. just last week. All is good! We LOVE it so far.
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:39 PM   #45
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Many 25 ft Airstreams have twin beds in the floor plan. The front sofa makes into a bed for 2 also.
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:50 PM   #46
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I am glad to see you went with the 28'. We are also a young family and find that our 28 footer is enough space for us. Congrats and enjoy.
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Old 08-05-2007, 04:58 PM   #47
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Hi Heather, somebody much wiser than I told me in an earlier post to go with the largest trailer you can possibly afford as you'll always grow into it. He was absolutely right - we love it!
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