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Old 05-06-2013, 08:20 PM   #15
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Agreed.
Several years ago, we got taken for a $500 deposit to hold a Argosy so we could see it. They guaranteed us return of deposit with many emails stating such, if we did not like it. Well, it was a mess. I asked for my deposit back and they said they would sue ME if I pursued them for the deposit. The husband was an "attorney" and threw all kinds of threats at us and my family. All over $500. We walked away from the deposit, returned home without the trailer. Though if it had been in our state I would have gone after them. Too far to pursue, would have cost lots more. Probably a cheap lesson. I think this couple did this scam regularly. Don't give deposits to hold. A very nice good trailer came along and we were very happy we had let that one go.

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I know I have learned a lot in the last year. Wish I knew then what I know now. Sellers are ignorant and deceptive.

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Old 05-06-2013, 10:09 PM   #16
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I too took a long road trip only to come up empty handed. We were planning to buy a vehicle in another state and when we got there, the inspection revealed all kinds of issues that the seller "forgot" to mention. He even had the nerve to say, "well we didn't need that to work so I didn't think it would be an issue."

The hardest thing to do is walk away after investing the time and money to drive so far to complete the sale but I'm glad I did. The experience really burned me regarding buying from distant individuals.

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Old 05-06-2013, 10:33 PM   #17
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If he lied about everything why would you believe he sold it or care. You didn't lose money you saved it. You always have to be prepared to walk away from a deal and never look back.
The only reason I really care whether or not he sold it is that I hope some poor guy who doesn't know any better didn't really pay him $4200. Never want the bad guy to win.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:37 PM   #18
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Dude that's bad! Glad you were able to walk away!
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:34 AM   #19
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Had a similar experience, spent several hours going over a '31 that was purportedly in great shape. I documented all I found wrong and I should have walked away when I saw the water standing inside the front window and when I asked if it had any leaks, the owner said no. I went inside and pulled things out of the way and the floor under both side of the couch were so far gone I could have easily put my arm through the floor without distrubing any of the rest of the floor. I did walk away, and the next week the same trailer was still advertised on-line, with a drop of $1,000 from the original asking price of $25,000, with a note "recently inspected, and minor damage found" as the reason for dropping the asking price. What can you say about people like that?????
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:51 AM   #20
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Hi, sometimes the seller tells the truth, but still not the whole story. I went to look at a car once that was owned by a little old lady. [and her husband] Over the phone, she said the car was in great shape, low mileage, had new [points, plugs, fuel pump, wires, Etc. Etc. Ect.] She also stated that her husband put a little scratch in it pulling it into, or out of, the garage. So I went to see this jewel. She mostly told the truth. Everything that she said was new on the outside of the engine was new; Everything else under the hood was covered with tons of gunk. Low mileage was because the speedometer had turned over. And the little scratch that she said her husband put in it was all the way from the headlight to the tail light on the right side of the car, and about six inches deep. Needless to say, I didn't buy this car.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:35 PM   #21
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Buy one from an engineer. We are honest and are OCD about mechanical things. Also if they have had it for a short time it is a red flag. If it has sat for 10 or more years is a red flag. If they don't want to put water and power on it is a red flag. If they say no leaks it is a red flag.

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Old 05-07-2013, 02:46 PM   #22
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TouringDan and bwoodtx (and anyone else reading this), I'd be delighted if you found a decent center-bath Argosy somewhere and told me about it. I'm not expecting a paragon of perfection (though if it really WERE all done up and the price didn't exceed the quality too much I'd pay for one that's done). I'm also not averse to one that needs some new subfloor and a full going-over, if the price matches the condition. I do, however, think that for a 70s trailer you just have to love it for a shell-off to be worth it, it'll never pay back in cash value. Then again, I can't quite picture selling the one I already have that isn't the perfect plan, so resale is probably not my biggest concern.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:49 PM   #23
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Does it have to be an Argosy? or will any AS do?

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Old 05-07-2013, 03:00 PM   #24
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Does it have to be an Argosy? or will any AS do?

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I really like the pano windows. And the center-bath Argosies have pano windows on BOTH ends, so I'm willing to spend more money/effort/both on that.

I've idly looked for rear-bed Ambassadors and for twin-bed Overlanders, but haven't found ones that excited me. I'm sure I'm more irrationally demanding of those because what I really want is the Argosy panos.

I'm aware that there are quite a few big 80s trailers that have the layout I'm looking for, but they tend to be big honking heavy things, to say nothing of the OSB subfloors in lots of 80s trailers... and by the 80s they'd started moving to the residential look for cabinets, I don't even like cabinetry like that in my house, so again I prefer the Argosy interiors.
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Unreal...so sorry this happened to you.
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:22 PM   #26
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So how far you willing to travel to get one?

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Old 05-07-2013, 04:26 PM   #27
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I will keep an eye out for one around here. If close I will take a look at it.

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So how far you willing to travel to get one?

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Well, I drove 900 miles each way for the craptastic one I left to rot some more in Kentucky last weekend. If it were one inspected and signed-off by a disinterested 3rd party who knew a thing or two about Airstreams, I'd go a long way if the price-to-condition ratio is right.
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