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06-23-2011, 10:55 AM
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3 Rivet Member
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Hampton
, Virginia
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Layout Issues
Not sure what forum to put this in.
We are still in the pre-purchase stages. And, in all honesty it might be as long as a year before we can act. Legal stuff, kids, finances....a whole lot of issues....
Anyways, here is what I am wrestling with. I can't readily afford new or even newer used models. However, the layouts on many of the older models leave something to be desired. So many of the older models have the darn couch with the back to a big beautiful panoramic window. What genius thought of that? I want to look out on nature (or the back of my TV ) without twisting my neck around while sitting on a couch facing inwards.
Ideally, I want a 25FB with panaoramic windows front and back. I want to be able to wake up and see the wonderful outdoors. And if I am inside sitting and relaxing or eating (when not outside doing that.....) to have nice panoramic views. Yet it seems few of the older models that fall in my price range have that ability.
Maybe I'm just venting, but putting that long couch with the back to a wonderful view is just plain shortsighted (pardon the pun).
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06-23-2011, 12:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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Ditch the couch and put in a couple small European-style recliners that swivel. Then you can turn a bit to see outside, or have the outside light behind you to read, visit, eat lunch, snooze.
The presence of view with occasional looks is more satisfying than facing it constantly.
doug k
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06-23-2011, 12:21 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 31' Excella
Fresno
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 307
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If I want to look out the front window I will use the swivel barrel chair that came with my Airstream. There are some floor plans that have the sofa and love seat combination. I know they were in Excella but not sure if they were in any other models. It would probably be in some of the Limited also. I had a 1979 with that seating.
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06-23-2011, 12:43 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Hampton
, Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
Ditch the couch and put in a couple small European-style recliners that swivel. Then you can turn a bit to see outside, or have the outside light behind you to read, visit, eat lunch, snooze.
The presence of view with occasional looks is more satisfying than facing it constantly.
doug k
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Doug, great point. I have one item that I didn't post originally. My wife hates, I mean hates, sitting apart from me. I had to find a folding camp chair on line that seats two. We house-sat for a friend recently. Their couch was in for re-upholstering. So we sat in separate recliners/chairs and she pouted most of the time. Which of course eliminates all units with mid section twin beds. Well all units with twin beds for that matter... unless we replace the twin beds with a single full/queen size bed.
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06-23-2011, 12:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
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We took out the couch in our '64 GlobeTrotter and built-in a dinette for this exact (among others) reason. We loved the layout - worked great!
Shari
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06-23-2011, 04:10 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
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If you are handy, reconfiguring the inside of a older model isn't outrageously hard. The pre 70's trailers had wooden cabinets so wood goes back well. Starting around 1970-71 the cabinets were made of aluminum extrusion, plywood covered with laminate and plastic, they can be modified but won't look like the original ones.
Aaron
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06-23-2011, 04:25 PM
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I would pose no problems, because of the sofa. In my old Cruiser in 1954 I make table and benches (Long bank = bed), it is not complicated!
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Greeting from Switzerland
Werner
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06-23-2011, 07:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 23' Safari SE
Central
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Getaways, you have one vintage option with dual panaromic windows - a 28' or 30' Argosy. Lovely trailers and light for their size. Rear bed, center bath, front couch. You'd need to swap out the front couch with something that works better - maybe a loveseat down the streetside of the coach - but they have the room to do that.
More modern, and more common, would be something like a 84+ 25' Sovereign or Excella. Double bed in the back, center bath, couch across the front. Just replace the couch with a L-shaped dinette/lounge - there are several members here who have done exactly that.
You'd wind up with something like a 2012 Airstream Flying Cloud 25B, but narrower (unless you buy a mid-90s or later wide body).
Tom
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06-24-2011, 09:51 AM
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3 Rivet Member
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Hampton
, Virginia
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Thanks for the insight everyone.
I majored in Accounting for a reason. I'm not that good with tools. My dad tried to get me to help him work on cars..... didn't work out too well. Think Ralphie in "A Christmas Story".... a little better than that but not much.... Seriously, I am not as bad as I let on, but still not real good.
My fiance', while willing and loves tools, I mean loves tools (we go to Lowes and she stops and drools like crazy), is well meaning but not as good as she thinks she is (and I can't ever show her this post.....).
However, I am sure with some of the people she and I know we could get it done if we put our minds to it.
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