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Old 04-09-2007, 07:53 PM   #15
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If you could not buy an Airstream, what would you consider?
Hey like a wise man once said you pays your money and you takes your choice...
Its fun going to rv shows, haven't seen too much I've liked, well yes the Holiday Ramblers were good...but...looks over shoulder, types quietly...

I confess, I have lusted in my heart after a vintage bluebird motorhome...there I've said it. Now I'm going to go out and clean my Airstream trailer.

Seriously, as others have said, vintage Airstreams can be a nice bargain and if you decide you want to get a newer trailer they hold their value.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:54 PM   #16
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Randy,

A couple of things to consider that haven't been mentioned:

Product longevity......just how many SOBs of 10, 20, 30 or more years do you still see on the road?

Factory support....... If you are buying new or leftover (nearly new), this a most important consideration. I do warranty work for folks all the time as many of my clients have new or newer rigs that are still under factory warranty.

Hit some of the RV forums and see what owners are saying about the factory's support of their rigs. I can give you many concrete examples of OEMs that DO NOT SUPPORT their warranty obligations, or do everything in their power to evade their warranties; leaving the burden squarely on the dealers!

I bought an Airstream because of the size, design, ultimate towability and best resale value down the line. I could have saved thousands on an SOB, but then, it would have been just that!............just another SOB that looks like every other SOB!
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:58 PM   #17
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Hey like a wise man once said you pays your money and you takes your choice...
Its fun going to rv shows, haven't seen too much I've liked, well yes the Holiday Ramblers were good...but...looks over shoulder, types quietly...

I confess, I have lusted in my heart after a vintage bluebird motorhome...there I've said it. Now I'm going to go out and clean my Airstream trailer.

Seriously, as others have said, vintage Airstreams can be a nice bargain and if you decide you want to get a newer trailer they hold their value.
Hey Steph,

I worked on a unit that looked just like that one, I think it was an '82 vintage. The guy had done an incredible job restoring it to new showroom condition, just like a lot of folks right here do!

Nice unit, but if I were doing it, I'd get a classic MoHo instead....way lighter and still silver...................
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:14 PM   #18
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Iíd venture to guess that most Forum members have owned non-Airstream travel trailers. Personally, I have been less than happy with the flimsy construction of the SOB units that I have owned. I have had a strong realization that Airstreams are significantly different. Beyond the exterior look and feel, which is still unmatched in the industry, here are some less obvious advantages:

1. Low step-in height, overall height and vastly superior aerodynamics. Airstreams are efficient and much more resistant to cross winds than slab sided TTs.
2. Interior walls are not paper. Most are true laminate, durable and sturdy feeling.
3. The roof is aluminum instead of rubber and will last forever. Airstreams are factory sealed from the inside-out. Try to find an SOB that doesnít have a rubber roof.

While Holiday Rambler does have some nice product, I think that these are limited to their larger sized units, 30í or bigger.

For folks that like T@B trailers, Kips are cool, but you canít buy them here. Kip Caravans BV
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:22 PM   #19
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I'm late to the game here but am solidly in the "Holiday Rambler is good medicine" camp. My grand dad has had some and dad has a really nice fifth wheel by Rambler right now. My grand dad had the aluma lite type and Dad has the Presidential. Same structure, just more goodies in it. They are very well made. The room inside them blows Airstream out of the water too. You could put a 34' Airstream inside dad's 31' Rambler 5er and still have room to get around. But it's a heavy brute. Around 11,000lbs empty. And it's very tall, like pulling a billboard down the road. But it sure is nice.

But, I guess I'm one of those "cultists." I like silver
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:29 PM   #20
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...I bought both of the Bigfoot trailers last year...
From the Bigfoot web site: Fiberglass Roof (Crowned)

This is impressive construction that I was not familiar with.
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:35 PM   #21
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I would by a pre-owned Airstream or Argosy before I bought SOB (some other brand or some other box).
Square ol' box? There are many variations on the SOB interpretation -- but SOB sez it all. Airstreams will have product issues like any complex product, but if you're inclined that direction I would go with it and be ready to learn what it takes to maintain our babies. One can never buy a new car, new house, or new RV and expect 10-15-20 years of maintenance free bliss. I've never regretted it!
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:42 PM   #22
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Earthroamer (EarthRoamer Home Page) - way cool...but way too much money.

WOW!! Ill say. $150,000 for a truck camper? What will they think of next?
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:48 PM   #23
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If I couldn't buy an Airstream perhaps, I would get an Arctic Fox with the extra cold weather package. Fiberglass is sturdy and easy care. They are built strong, and insulated well. Air conditioning is ducted, built in generator, and a bath tub in a large bathroom with wardrobe.

We also considered Big Foot for the insulating properties of the unit.

We owned 2 Towlites (Hi-Lo's lower end series.) They were great for the money and weight and getting us out of a fold down camper. They both had leaks we could not trace and we wanted the storage and ease of full profile and less moving parts or seams.

We are glad we could get an Airstream. In our opinion Airstream's best feature is that it is an Airstream. The design won our hearts.
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One thing mentioned in the long post you copied from the fiberglass rv website....The guy mentioned that they get hot in the sun. Well, I admit we have had our 85 Excella for only a year now but I can tell you we dry-camped (no electric, no water) over July 4th weekend last year in 90+ degree weather, parked in mostly sun. We were honestly fairly comfortable in the airstream, even during the day. We couldn't believe it! Our Airstream has awnings all around and though we thought the smaller ones on the back and street side were mostly for show, we guess that they help keep the trailer from getting too hot. Super nice feature.
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Old 04-09-2007, 09:27 PM   #25
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Holiday Ramblers were good...but...looks over shoulder, types quietly...

I confess, I have lusted in my heart after a vintage bluebird motorhome...there I've said it. Now I'm going to go out and clean my Airstream trailer.
Okay, I see one can admit weakness, I too long for an SOB,
I always liked the Wanderlodge, I think the Zip Dee awnings and that aluminum rail down the roof line got me.
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Old 04-09-2007, 10:12 PM   #26
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My wife and I have been looking at RVs for over a year now. We have looked at many brands, 5th wheels, motor homes and TT. I could not get her interested in much of anything until she looked at an AS. She loved the interior aluminum walls. She is sold on AS. She does not want something that looks like her grandma's living room.

Now we are focused but still looking.
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:12 PM   #27
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Holiday rambler alumilite.That was what I was looking at untill I found an Airstream Squarestream that has it all.Airstream quality, Holiday Rambler room.We love our 1989 Squrestream.

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For us there was nothing to compare to an Airstream. We bought new because I'm no Mr. Fix-it and we figured if we had to pay someone, we might as well be making payments.

We enjoy our Airstream as often as we can...to the neglect of our domestic duties I'm afraid to say. For us, it started out as a style issue and then became a quality issue and we have been blessed with a unit that has had next to no real warranty issues. We have been delighted with our Airstream and would do it all over again. It is perfect for our family of four plus cocker spaniel.

The negatives-it would be nice to have more external storage so we wouldn't have to bring the grill, lounge chairs, portable fire pit, and patio lights in for transporting them. But then, it would be higher profile if it had "basement" storage so there is a trade-off with the white boxes. There is a lot packed into our 30 footer so a few extra square feet of floor space would be nice, too. But again, you pay for it in boxiness.

I think the only thing I would consider different if money was truly no object would be a Provost or similar diesel pusher. There are draw-backs to that kind of "camping" but I would like that kind of camping style with them anyway. Until then, Airstreaming will be all the style I need.
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