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Old 09-05-2012, 12:04 AM   #1
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first post and lots of question on buying

Hi There: I am 100% new and this is my FIRST post.

I hope that you all can help guide me with some good directions. I am looking to buy, and have three options on the table:

1. a local, 2012 AS Flying Cloud 23 FB on "sale"
2. a local, 2013 AS INTL 23 FB, at a "reduced" price
3. 1500 miles away from home, 2011 AS INTL 23 D, again reduced to sell!

My question are:

1. Would you be concerned with a NEW 2011 after sitting on a lot for a few years? Why? -- some raised were: number of people walking through, dealer taking parts for repairs, and the possibility that it was SOLD but returned due to unqual buyer.

2. What is BEST time to buy for good deal?
2.1 What is a good deal, better, what is a reasonable expectation on sticker / out the door?

3. What questions should I ask the dealer?

4. What questions should we ask ourselves?

5. Should we buy new, or used?
5.1 Where do you find used?

6. does "year" matter?

Thank you!
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Old 09-05-2012, 12:21 AM   #2
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

as to your questions,

1. No, we bought a new 2005 25FB in 2006 after it had been on the lot for 16 months.

2. Fall should be the best. It's the end of the camping season in most parts of the country.

2.1 - We bought our 2005 at 22% off MSRP; it was last year's model.

3. Ask about his service and warranty repairs. Some dealers are not super competent in the service department.

4. Is this the Airstream that we best fit our family and our camping style?

5. Either. A lot depends on what you can find when you're ready to pull the trigger.

5.1 - Dealer trades, the Classified here on Airforums, TV trader, and Ebay.

6. Not really, condition is the key.

Good Luck, Brian
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:04 AM   #3
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Welcome to the forum.

Hi, yes I would be concerned about tires and batteries on a 2011 trailer that could have a production date from the mid of 2010. Debatable, but you could have 2/12 years on batteries that a lot of us only get three years out of. And 2 1/2 years on tires that many believe should be changed between 5 to 7 years. You didn't mention prices. I would hate to think that someone could buy a new 2013 model trailer for less than you might pay for a 2011 model.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:54 PM   #5
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Thank you!

I did not want to post up the asking prices right away, I was not sure if that was frowned upon here or not but here they are:

2013, INTL, 58k
2011, INTL, 50k
2012, FLYCL, 52k

My feeling is that we have not done our best negotiating yet, but am here to learn more in order to get the best deal, and be happy with our buy.

Thanks.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:57 PM   #6
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Hi, yes I would be concerned about tires and batteries on a 2011 trailer that could have a production date from the mid of 2010. Debatable, but you could have 2/12 years on batteries that a lot of us only get three years out of. And 2 1/2 years on tires that many believe should be changed between 5 to 7 years. You didn't mention prices. I would hate to think that someone could buy a new 2013 model trailer for less than you might pay for a 2011 model.
agreed. I did buy a step-van for my business that sat on a lot for a couple years and it was not a major problem, but yes, we did have to change out batteries, and did not get a full life on tires. Two very good points that had crossed my mind.

The life of tires, and battery that you mention is very helpful. TY
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Two other points: axles also have a finite life, and while just sitting on a lot does not wear them as fast as going down the road, it still "uses up" some of their useful life before the coach ever gets to you.

Second, if the trailer has any sort of leak (and it seems most do have some sort of leak), sitting outside in weather - assuming not stored indoors - will have allowed leakage and potential floor rot to start. If the trailers are all in LA area, much less of an issue than in coastal Oregon, etc.

My personal preference is for "gently used" if you can find it. The original purchaser takes more of the depreciation hit, and has had time if he/she is smart and competent, to get all of the little "glitches" taken care of. You get a big discount, some of which you will spend for earlier repairs/replacement of those tires, batteries, axles, etc.

I've no idea whether those prices are reasonable in today's market, but a little shopping will tell you the answer to that ... and DO make sure that you have an adequate tow vehicle for whatever trailer you decide upon. Have fun: the chase and decision are half the fun of ownership!
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:16 PM   #8
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Howdy and to Airforums.com, Go_Airstream! You're getting some great advice here. The only thing I could add to it is this:

You need to go out an sit in some Airstreams for a bit to be sure you make the right decision as to what size to buy. Once you have done that, just buy the next size up.

You'll be amazed how they shrink after you get used to them
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