Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-18-2010, 09:44 AM   #1
Rivet Master

1973 25' Tradewind
Beautiful , Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 547
Changing out interior of 90's AS to lose weight?

I hope this an acceptable place to ask please move if I am in wrong section.

My question is what makes the 90s vintages so much heavier? Is it mostly the solid wood cabinets, corion and ???. Can I strip it out and build my own lighter weight cabinets and use plastic laminate to lighting it up to around 70s vintage. I would like the newer model to limit the amount of work that I am not too comfortable doing. I need a coach I can tow with my 2004 135 wheelbase AWD Chevy Explorer 5.3L 373 with slip differential. Rated at 6600 and be either a 23 min. or a 25. Any thoughts would be great. Thanks You Tony Rogue River Oregon a nice are to travel to.

Tony S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2010, 03:04 PM   #2
Wise Elder
Jammer's Avatar
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river , Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,020
Chevy Explorer???

No matter.

The weight differences are the sum of many small things
- 6" width increase
- increase in the amount of cabinetwork
- larger and heavier appliances being included in the standard weight. Air conditioners became standard at some point and their weight was then included. Fridges have generally become larger over the years.
- increases in the frame and running gear weight

Cheapest and easiest way to lose weight might be to travel with empty water/holding tanks and downsize your propane capacity. Leave the spare tire at home. Remove any batteries you do not need. Remove any air conditioners that are installed. Maybe remove the fridge.

Jammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2010, 03:18 PM   #3
Rivet Master
Pahaska's Avatar
2005 28' Classic
Austin (Hays County) , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,370
Images: 13
One battery

Unless you are into boondocking more than a night or two at a time, go to a single battery. I did this a year or two ago for a significant weight loss.

On my Trailmanor, I planed some thickness from cabinet doors and drawer fronts to save a few pounds.

If your trailer is full of mirrors, remove the mirrors and replace them with lighter material. All that glass is surprisingly heavy. I went from 11 mirrors to just one. I used some cheap bamboo blinds that I bought on sale for $7 each and used spray adhesive to attach the material to the wood backing for the mirrors. Looks much like my friends vintage Limited that has caned inserts. See my 2005 Classic 28 thread for some photos.

I also traded the couch for two lightweight rocker-recliners. That had to have saved some weight since the couch is really heavy.
John W. Irwin
2005 Classic 28 "Sabre-Dog III"
2013 Silverado 2500HD Duramax/Allison LTZ
WBCCI #9632, TAC TX-10
Pahaska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2010, 08:18 PM   #4
Rivet Master

1973 25' Tradewind
Beautiful , Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 547
That's nice! You would think I know my own rig. Meant to say Chevy Express, as in van. Thanks for the info on the weight. Everything has its pros and cons. Tony
Tony S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2010, 05:46 AM   #5
4 Rivet Member
Cantrell's Avatar
1988 34' Limited
1960 24' Tradewind
Mt. Pleasant , South Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 379
The increases in weight happen over the years for the reasons Jammer mentions.
For your comparison:
1975 TW LY 24 -- 4110#
1980 Excella 24 -- 4244#
1985 Sovrgn 25 -- 4900#
1990 Excella 25 -- 5600#
1998 Excella 25 -- 5840#
2001 Excella 25 -- 6000#

Sounds like your Express would do the job for what you are looking for and you are on the right track. Good luck in your search.
Bill Cantrell
AIR 24338
Easily distracted by shiny objects.
Cantrell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2010, 06:36 AM   #6
Rivet Master

1973 25' Tradewind
Beautiful , Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 547
Thanks The comparison is useful along with the other info. I didn't realize I was good with the weight of the 25 mid 80's models. Sticking with 80% of max I am pushing with the 1985 Sovrgn 25 at 4900# but doable Tony
Tony S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2010, 08:47 AM   #7
3 Rivet Member
1972 29' Ambassador
Harrah , Oklahoma
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 110
Images: 1
You're on the right track. The desire folks have to get real cabinets with granite counters in their home away from home is why all the modern trailers weigh so much.

Think like a backpacker. Every ounce adds up to pounds. You may not be ready to rip out your cabinets and replace them with carbon fiber, but you can reduce and minimize what's in your trailer. The idea of removing mirrors and replacing blinds with lighter ones is excellent. You could also replace a shower door with a lightweight shower curtain, or heavy wood cabinet doors with some colored plexiglass. I'm still amazed at the sturdiness of the cabinets in my '72 that are made out of formica and practically cardboard. The vertical strength is quite impressive.

In recent years the cost of fuel to pull the trailer used to be less than the expense of lightweight materials. That's not really the case for some people anymore.

My Brain Project and Tech Notes
airbassador is offline   Reply With Quote

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another key to lose Excella CM Jacks, Stabilizers, Lifting and Leveling 6 06-21-2008 06:43 PM
How many AS did you lose? wannaroam Our Community 21 10-31-2006 10:23 AM
Lose the awnings? lessen Awnings 46 06-12-2006 03:24 PM
replacing interior - What is max. weight? happier General Interior Topics 15 09-14-2004 08:13 AM

Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities

Copyright 2002-2015 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:39 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.