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Old 02-07-2008, 02:25 PM   #43
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:27 PM   #44
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this is WHY the lp gas lines are covered...

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Old 02-07-2008, 05:18 PM   #45
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this is WHY the lp gas lines are covered...

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Is this done only on trailers bound for Canada ? My 2005 with the RVIA sticker dose not have this extra protection.
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Old 02-07-2008, 05:59 PM   #46
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Is this done only on trailers bound for Canada ?...
hi jim

yes i think so.

i didn't see it on any of the euro models and certainly NONE of the domestic units.

i suspect it relates to canadian certification or code,

but it would be nice if the canadian dealer or ne1 who actually KNOWS why, could explain it.

i doubt the CRVA sticker has anything to do with it,

that was just my graphic way of 'splainin' this is a canadian (csa) unit...

and built with some different (BETTER) safety standards.

this didn't appear to be 'split' piping placed over the copper lines,

perhaps the copper comes pre insulated/wrapped ? and the ends are exposed at the junctions...

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Old 02-07-2008, 08:04 PM   #47
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wire location and propane leaks

I had issues with the jack wire on my Safari as soon as I got it. Also had issues with the tank cover crushing the fuse holder and fuse for the jack and while I was investigating that I happened to follow the propane line aft and lo, there it was holding the right front stabilizer jack screw up. And doing a darn good job of it although it would'nt have lasted much longer. This on a one month old unit. After a few calls to JC found out mine wasn't the only one, they suggested reefing on the line to bend it outta the way. Nice. I loosened things up and relocated it and also spiral wrapped it. And mouseholed my tank cover.
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Old 02-07-2008, 09:13 PM   #48
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The question remains, as 2air so eloquently put it....Why does the consumer have to make these modifications. Why not a recall and let the dealer, thru a factory recall, make these obviously necessary changes? JC should be paying thru the nose to make this things happen, not us!
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Old 02-07-2008, 10:47 PM   #49
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and the notion of a 2nd door is a sooooo much better solution...

except 4 the undisclosed reasons WHY we are seeing rear door models REPLACE many/most of the current front door layouts...

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mr 2air,

may i offer perhaps a different point of view...

the second door could be / is a "boyfriend door" or "girlfriend door" to be used in an emergency only...

the "special purpose" emergency door.

just thinking out loud...

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Old 02-10-2008, 10:00 AM   #50
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2air and others,

FWIW, I visited the Airstream dealer again yesterday and did an extensive walk thru of a few FB models. At some point in the production, the emergency window in the 25 FB changed for 2008 with a delete of the small lower window and a full sized opening window put in it's place. I compared this with another 25 FB that had to older window, and very quickly saw how hard it would be to squeeze my butt thru the higher and smaller window, but the bigger window looked like no problem. Both pics below are from 2008 25FB models. Also, but but not pictured, a 27FB on the lot had the new bigger window. Unfortunately, I didn't note the manufactured date on each trailer to compare.
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I have pictures of a 2007 27' FB International CCD that I took at a dealers before we ordered our 2008. Our 2008 has the larger emergency window where the 2007 doesn't, as you indicated.
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good info westie and cosmo...

and appreciate u both checking this out.

i wonder if this is an actual model change or if some were ordered with or without the...

'stacked window' option...

i think that's how the small under/opener above combo is labeled.

certainly hope this IS a model change across the line.

which brings up another issue

on front bed/rear door models with non classic style windows (the hehr windows)...

what style and size is the front bedroom exit window?

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Old 02-10-2008, 02:50 PM   #53
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After checking out Colonial Airstream current new inventory, I see that EVERY 2008 FB model (Classic, International, Safari) has the single larger window for the exit, but the stacked windows over the bed. A very quick look into the 2007 sold archives show the stacked windows on both sides.

No idea about the Safari models with the Hehr windows. I didn't see any.

Right there, it immediately shows me that I don't want to buy a pre 2008 model due to this safety defect. How much do you think this would cost to retrofit the bigger window into older units?
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...Right there, it immediately shows me that I don't want to buy a pre 2008 model due to this safety defect. How much do you think this would cost to retrofit the bigger window into older units?
richL had one of the bigger/wider opening windows retro fitted into his unit last year...

he did it to replace a hehr window and get more ventilation, and covered this upgrade in his blog.

dt at the weatherford texas a/s dealer did the swap out, so you could likely get a price from him.

wild guess would be 800-1200 $ parts and labor.

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I know the Safari windows only open at the bottom, what are the emergency exit provisions for those windows?
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:31 PM   #56
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I know the Safari windows only open at the bottom, what are the emergency exit provisions for those windows?
My 2005 Safari SS has a pop out window, the type with 2 latches in the rear above the bed. All other windows open at the bottom.
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