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Old 08-27-2014, 07:41 AM   #15
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It's a bit unreasonable these days unless you are dealing with amounts under 10K USD. Withdrawals of cash over 10K will cause an IRS inquiry and a blip on the DHS radar. Basically your bank will make you fill out a form stating why you want this cash, and that you're not a terrorist or money laundering. Plus, who walks around with the kind of cash these things sell for.

I sold my previous "non-AS" trailer to a buyer in the US who found my ad on an internet forum for the make of trailer. (I am in Canada)

We had several phone conversations and he seemed a very genuine person - there was not a whole lot of $$ involved, about $8k as I recall.

After exchange of many JPEGS, he agreed to buy the trailer sight unseen, then we started to discuss payment.

I suggested a bank draft (I'm not really sure of the terminology) but he told me his bank had some problem in giving him one since the $$ was being sent out of the country. Seemed odd - he said his bank told him their policy related to changes made after 9-11.

So I suggested he bring cash as it wasn't that much, but he was reluctant to travel with the cash.

I spoke with my bank to see what they might suggest and they wanted me to be very cautious in view of frequent scams.

Seems that some forms of transfer that might seem totally legit but could result in me getting the $$ right away only to find out weeks later that it was a scam, then the bank would be after me to return the $ and I would be the one out of pocket!

What they finally suggested was for me to have the other party bring American Express traveller's cheques for the amount, then when he arrived at our place for both of us to come to my bank branch together with the cheques.

We did that, and when we arrived at the bank, the bank contacted American Express regarding the serial numbers of the cheques and confirmed to whom they were issued before they would accept them and turn over the cash to my buyer who then gave it to me!

It all seemed to work fine - I don't know if this is a commonly used method?

All through this, I felt very embarrassed to be dealing in this manner with the buyer as he seemed totally honest and indeed was. We have visited each others homes and still keep in touch years later!

He understood and did not take offense!

But you just never know!

Brian
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:38 AM   #16
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I suggested a bank draft (I'm not really sure of the terminology) but he told me his bank had some problem in giving him one since the $$ was being sent out of the country. Seemed odd - he said his bank told him their policy related to changes made after 9-11.
Yup, this is common now.

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So I suggested he bring cash as it wasn't that much, but he was reluctant to travel with the cash.
I wonder if there are issues crossing the border with large sums?

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I spoke with my bank to see what they might suggest and they wanted me to be very cautious in view of frequent scams.

Seems that some forms of transfer that might seem totally legit but could result in me getting the $$ right away only to find out weeks later that it was a scam, then the bank would be after me to return the $ and I would be the one out of pocket!
This is pretty common. Here is what happens with this scam. The person will say they are giving you a check or western union for 10,000 instead of your asking $8,000 and say that you can keep $1000 for your "effort" if you just give them back the other $1000. They'd make off with $1000 and when the check came back bad, you'd have to foot the whole bill.

I'm amazed people can't spot this, but hey, people still fall for Prince Ambubabbbado-da in Africa scams apparently.


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What they finally suggested was for me to have the other party bring American Express traveller's cheques for the amount, then when he arrived at our place for both of us to come to my bank branch together with the cheques.

We did that, and when we arrived at the bank, the bank contacted American Express regarding the serial numbers of the cheques and confirmed to whom they were issued before they would accept them and turn over the cash to my buyer who then gave it to me!

It all seemed to work fine - I don't know if this is a commonly used method?

All through this, I felt very embarrassed to be dealing in this manner with the buyer as he seemed totally honest and indeed was. We have visited each others homes and still keep in touch years later!

He understood and did not take offense!

But you just never know!

Brian
Seems legit. And probably best for over the boarder transactions. Don't' be afraid to ask your bank to call the other bank and verify funds. That's what they are there for! Or to ask how to handle things.

Thanks for sharing that Wingeezer
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:37 AM   #17
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I did a large purchase a few years ago. Not my Airstream but the truck we tow with. It was an E-Bay deal that had expired. I contacted and negotiated a price with the seller and sent him a $2k deposit by check. It took several weeks to put together the plan to fly to St. Louis to pick it up but we did and I brought a bank check for the full amount. The seller had told me that he did not deposit my check but would simply return it to me when we met. We met, drove to his bank to deposit the check. It was after business hours at my east coast bank and his bank couldn't confirm funds availability to the next business day and the title was held by the bank anyway. So he gave me my deposit check and the truck. He would hold the title until the bank confirmed payment and we drove the truck home. Everybody shootin straight and all well in the end. I would be careful EVEN with a cash transaction. I don't think I could tell a good counterfeit bill if I saw one.

These scammers have gotten very slick but there are a few honest people out there.
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:53 AM   #18
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Jumping Joe,

I appreciate your thoughts on buying and selling. Right now I am looking for a vintage airstream and have had various troubles. About 1/3 of the ads I answer are scams. I found one I want and the seller, whose ad was recently posted, hasn't answered me. I sent two emails and feel like a girl waiting for her date to call again. Two previous ones I considered sold very quickly. One I rejected as being too much work, and two I didn't even get to see because they sold. I am trying to focus on my part of the country, which is the North east. It's been very frustrating. My husband assures me that I will find one, but the unanswered queries bug me the most.
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Old 10-31-2014, 11:03 AM   #19
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Jumping Joe,

I appreciate your thoughts on buying and selling. Right now I am looking for a vintage airstream and have had various troubles. About 1/3 of the ads I answer are scams. I found one I want and the seller, whose ad was recently posted, hasn't answered me. I sent two emails and feel like a girl waiting for her date to call again. Two previous ones I considered sold very quickly. One I rejected as being too much work, and two I didn't even get to see because they sold. I am trying to focus on my part of the country, which is the North east. It's been very frustrating. My husband assures me that I will find one, but the unanswered queries bug me the most.
Unanswered Queries - one thing you might not be considering is that many people lead disorganized lives (Who Moi?). They might post an ad on e-bay, craigslist, and five other sites... then not remember to check for replies on all of them regularly. Also, far far too often lately people are selling their valuable stuff because they are in extreme financial distress. Unloading the Airstream might make up three delinquent mortgage payments... but the flood of stress that they're getting as foreclosure looms, and all the other bill collectors are circling and on and on. Panic doesn't lead to good decision making so everything slides. And of course if the Airstream DID sell on day three lots of people don't remember to go back and update all of their ads - or they may just not know how to update the ad.

Let me suggest some simpler approaches. Call every RV dealer within 50 miles and ask if they ever get an Airstream in on a trade to give you a call. Call every campground in the same range and ask if they have any Airstreams sitting neglected in storage. Would they be kind enough to call the owner and pass your name on a s someone who might be interested in it. Drive around to big storage yards that store RV's - ditto.

Join your local WBCCI or at least visit and ask if anyone is buying a new one and might want to sell the old one directly... or if anyone is retiring from traveling and would like to see the family Airstream go to a new home.

Might be more fruitful.

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I recently sold my B190 on the forum classifieds. About 50 % of the queries went directly into my spam folder ( including the one from the person I ended up selling it to). You may want to check there in case you are getting some responses that you haven't seen.
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Old 11-01-2014, 10:26 AM   #21
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Excellent points Paula and karenjude. I will start contacting RV dealerships with the exact questions you are suggesting, Paula. I don't know what WBCCI is, that's how new I am.
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I have three very good friends who are Dicks ... I hope they're not insulted by that...

Paula, Your comments are especially good ones! Thank you!
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