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01-25-2019, 02:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cazual6
This is another one of those I do not understand.
You buy a toy for over $80k, and complain about a $800 bill?
Or worst, buy the cheapest thing you can find.
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In MT, where we do not have sales tax, but do have income and personal property taxes ... initial tax for vehicle plate is very high and after 4 years, annual truck renewal fee is still almost $600 in a relatively rural county.
Fortunately, the AS registration is only paid once - no annual renewal.
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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01-25-2019, 02:13 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 25' Flying Cloud
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
2011 19' Flying Cloud
ADA County
, Idaho
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 53
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Idaho
You all would hate Idaho then; sales tax, property tax, income tax AND I pay $300/year to register the AS.
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01-25-2019, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,672
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We register our vehicles in MT since we are there 6 months out of the year typically. MT has no sales tax and one time registration for plates on the
AS. We have even just done transfer of plates on our personalized plates last two AS's and TV's we have licensed in MT. We do pay a fee each year to renew for the F250, but still was a lot cheaper then paying the sales tax and for the AS, was the best option with one time registration/license. Best way for us. We list TX as our residence for income tax purposes since they don't have income tax, so we do not have any issues with our vehicles nor AS.
That being said, we did move back to CA 5 years ago for a job assignment. I kept my MT plates, knowing if I was pulled over, I would tell them I was "just passing thru". My friend, an ex CA policeman advised me CA will really come down hard on you if you reside in CA and don't pay your vehicle taxes...don't tell them your living there...just visiting. I'm back to TX now in winter and MT in summer...all is well!
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Empty Nesters; Gypsies on the road! 2017 28' Twin Flying Cloud
2017 F250 King Ranch, 4X4, 6.7L, Blue-Ox WDH
Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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01-25-2019, 03:44 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1959 24' Tradewind
Twin Falls
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 247
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sncnidaho
Practically IMPOSSIBLE to comment on this thread without getting political. Which is better; gas or diesel?
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Electric of course...
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Tony
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01-25-2019, 04:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 26' Overlander
1974 31' Sovereign
Milton
, ON
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclist
I've never thought of Ontario as being a low tax jurisdiction however trailer registration is a one time fee of $72.
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That is a great deal compared to many jurisdictions, but prior to that we also pay 13% sales tax on the purchase price, whether used or new.
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01-25-2019, 04:59 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 27' International
Galt
, California
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 38
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registration fees
We also got our first annual registration renewal on our 2017 interstate. Way over $800! Tis the way it is going sadly. BTW, I have a diesel, and love it!
Andrew, K6STN
2017 27' FB International
2017 f-250 lariat diesel
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01-25-2019, 05:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 26' Overlander
1974 31' Sovereign
Milton
, ON
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by absteen
We also got our first annual registration renewal on our 2017 interstate. Way over $800! Tis the way it is going sadly. BTW, I have a diesel, and love it!
Andrew, K6STN
2017 27' FB International
2017 f-250 lariat diesel
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Just curious, do you also pay sales tax on the original purchase, or is this like the "sales tax" being spread out over a longer period of time?
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01-25-2019, 05:11 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Waco
, Texas
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 296
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I remember reading last year, that Maine will allow residents from any state, to register their travel trailer with a Maine plate. No residency in state required. A fee based independent registration service exists, to assist and represent you for processing the registration paperwork. Such trailer can be located out of state, and they will mail you the registration documents and trailer plate.
https://mainetrailerregistrations.com/
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01-25-2019, 05:59 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 17' Caravel
Oak Creek
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,560
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Michigan. I paid 75 dollars for the plate it's good as long as I have the trailer.
We get robbed on auto insurance to make up for it.
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01-25-2019, 06:00 PM
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Opinionated newb...
2018 25' Flying Cloud
League City
, TX
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 479
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It says they do not register campers...
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01-25-2019, 06:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
mcdonough
, Georgia
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 112
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KK4YZ
In GA you pay a one time (significant) tax when you initially register a vehicle. After that it’s an annual tag fee which is pretty small.
On the other hand, property (real estate) taxes seem lower than what I hear people report from other states, although it will vary by county.
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Only if it has a motor, otherwise you pay ad valorem every year on that trailer or fifth wheel.
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01-25-2019, 07:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 26' Overlander
1974 31' Sovereign
Milton
, ON
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wave man
It says they do not register campers...
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This place does: https://staabagency.com/
They're the one I used.
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01-25-2019, 08:54 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 25' International
Decatur
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 82
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Where's the gotcha to Maine registration?
This sounds too easy to be true.
So let's assume for a minute that it is true... Maine will allow me to register my travel trailer there even though it and I don't live there.
What about back in my home state? Is that where the risk is? Will they "react badly"? Is my insurance carrier going to freak out when they see Maine tag numbers and a GA address?
We recently got our $1k ad valorum bill and are NOT happy. This is mostly because we know that when we had boats (same applies to personal aircraft too) we were taxed in the (cheap) county that they were moored in and not the (pricey) county that we live in. That rule somehow doesn't apply to trailers. We do store our AS in a less expensive county.
And of course, we paid the 8% sales tax at purchase too!
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01-25-2019, 09:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 28' Flying Cloud
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Hiawassee
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 1,413
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ksteve06
Only if it has a motor, otherwise you pay ad valorem every year on that trailer or fifth wheel.
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I guess I need to go back and check. I don’t recall the 2nd year being anywhere near as high as the initial registration.
It’s possible the annual ad valorem tax varies by county? Towns County generally less expensive.
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01-26-2019, 07:17 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 27' International
Galt
, California
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 38
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registration fees.
No, the sales tax was almost 10% up front.
Andrew K6STN
2017 27'FB International
2017 F-250 lariat Diesel
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01-26-2019, 03:00 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Chicora
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 59
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I guess what all this shows is that States need to get their acts together and standardize their tax systems.
Sales Tax is the only real fair tax. Even crooks have to pay it if they spend stolen money.
Until then, I’ll do what makes sense for me.
Thank you.
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01-27-2019, 11:36 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,672
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Totlh
I guess what all this shows is that States need to get their acts together and standardize their tax systems.
Sales Tax is the only real fair tax. Even crooks have to pay it if they spend stolen money.
Until then, I’ll do what makes sense for me.
Thank you.
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Not if they purchase in MT!
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Empty Nesters; Gypsies on the road! 2017 28' Twin Flying Cloud
2017 F250 King Ranch, 4X4, 6.7L, Blue-Ox WDH
Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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01-27-2019, 01:52 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB International
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 5
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If you can't afford the tires, don't buy a Ferrari.....
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01-27-2019, 07:04 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Chicora
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shenze
If you can't afford the tires, don't buy a Ferrari.....
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Not really sure how this applies to registering an A/S. If I were to own a Ferrari, and could save money on registering it in a different state while following all of the legal requirements I may opt to do so.
Why wouldn't you consider it?
Paying extra taxes for no good reason just does not make sense to me. Do you send in a few hundred dollars extra every year to Uncle Sam? If not, why not. In my mind it is the same thing.
As long as it is legal, I view it the same way as as taking all allowable deductions.
Of course, opinions may vary. Consult your tax advisor for information on how this may apply to you. Oh, and BTW have a great day!
God Bless America!
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01-27-2019, 07:47 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB International
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 5
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It is of course just a saying.
It applies as my opinion, which is different than yours that I would rather spend my time doing more enjoyable things then trying to save money by going out of my way to register in another state just to save a few dollars.
A late model Airsteam trailer is a luxury item. Plain and simple. It is expensive. It never ceases to amaze me that some people who can afford them will complain about the cost to own them.
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