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Old 01-16-2006, 07:54 PM   #15
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Old 01-18-2006, 04:47 AM   #16
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Well this morining I'm going to look at the 1969 Overlander! My husband and son saw it on a road trip. I'm taking a camera. I looked at a 1972 Overlander last night and the PO had put so many extras in it that I was overwhelmed. Wish me luck, I may leave a deposit.

Thanks for your help!


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Old 01-18-2006, 07:42 AM   #17
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Good Luck Mrs Pfay;

Hope you read the inspection thread here to give you lots of ideas on what to look for.

If you have not left yet - take an ice pick and flash light with you. Be prepared to get on your hands and knees and check all the storage cupboards. Look for signs of water damage - black wood in corners - chalky white surfaces too - this is another type of mold. Mold on the ceilings is usually just dampness and easily washed off. Check for a strong floor around the door front window and under the kitchen counter/cupboards.

Be sure to open all the storage compartment doors on the out side. They are tricky so be gentle putting them back. Be sure to thoroughly look in the trunk - if the bathroom is in the back then this is a good place to look for water damage from the black tank, toilet sink bathtub and possibly water heater.

Check the propane lines for creases and kinks do they look browned and brittle if so they will need replacing. Plumbing check for patches with hot water heater hose and clamps - an easy and economical fix - but an indication that the lines have split for some reason.

Check all the windows operable. Check to make sure all the latches are there.

And of course if the PO can do it have them show you that all the systems are working Fridge both electric and propane.

On our 69 we replaced:
Water Pump
Water Heater
Had a new vintage look awning made to match the original that was on it.
Replaced the curtains / and working on the Upholstery.
Replaced the fridge door inner skin (still looking for Ice box door)
Replaced all the propane copper.
New Propane Regulator
New Valves on original tanks
Got all leaks under control
Removed the carpet to find original tiles in excellent shape underneath.

A leak at the running lights and bumber rail had seeped enough to lift the tiles at the edge of the wall - but the floor had not started any rot - we were lucky!

Our Friends in Virginia with the same year and model - were not so lucky and he had to replace the whole floor area in the back.

One word of caution with the 69's - the wing windows in the front can not be replaced with glass - they were only made one year. Following 69 they made the wing windows with rounded corners top and bottom. However you can still replace the windows with Lexan - and to the onlooker you would not know the difference. Ours had all original windows in the front - and on two trips we have lost a wing window and the large front window.

On a more positive note - the 69's were the last year they had the total wood interior. The 1970 model did have some wood but also shared the look with the introduction of the tambres doors on the cupboards. Then in 72 they went to the (GA) composite 70's plastic material.

Although it is wood and looks great when all redone - keep in mind for the rigs to be light they are just veneer over a very light pressboard material.The veneer being over 30 years old can be very frail and care should be taken in the refinishing. And if regular use of the trailer is instore then precautions should be taken to preserve the wood beyond just a wax or oil treatement. The veneer will not hold up at the edges.

Not just because we have one - but we think the 69 is a very special year for Airstream and all man kind . It was a change over year from the very popular 63-68's and the introduction of some new technolgy and the door opened to the 70's era that so many people like (?????). It was a year of ending and beginning - just as landing on the moon

Good luck - and be sure to post pics when you get back you would be amazed at what folks here can pick up in a photo - we are all aluminum wizards with powers that go far beyond the naked eye.
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Old 01-18-2006, 05:29 PM   #18
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1969 Overlander Pics and Inspection notes

Just got in and I have attached some pics of the 1969 27 Overlander. I have more pics but this is all I could load at one time. If there are other areas of interest I can send them in another post. Things I noticed while inspecting the trailer were as follows:

The floor seemed solid I could not find any soft spots

The original tile has been replaced with linoleum

The gas heater has been replaced with a Suburban model. It appears to have some ducting on the side of the heater that has been covered with aluminum tape.

The dents in the front will have to be repaired on both corners and a local dealer said he could do it for around $600.00

Most of the interior seems to be original i.e. frig, stove, oven, wood work, sink, counter tops, toilet, bath, doors to bath, and hallway, sofa, light fixtures, storage bins, etc.

Not a lot of additions or modifications by previous owners

Was not able to hook up electricity, gas, or pigtail to truck

Original owners manual, water, gas and electrical schematics were kept in good condition

The asking price is $4,500.00 with the owner asking us to make an offer

Any comments or suggestions would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. Mrs.Pfay
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Old 01-18-2006, 05:54 PM   #19
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Yes I have one - if you don't take it I will! No serious. She looks really clean from your pics.

Now as far as mods are concerned all depends on what you are looking for in a vintage trailer. This is a really nice looking one for $4500. We paid $4500 for our globe Trotter 2 years ago and this one looks in better shape!

On a second note - DO NOT get taken by a dealer on fixing those dents.

On the 69 the banana wrap in the front is very easy to drop - just drill out the rivets and then get yourself a shaping hammer set and knock those dents out. Those dents are from stones and small rocks on the road. We all have them - and after a while they add character to the rig.

Looks like someone has taken real good care of that one they are hard to find.

If I were in your shoes - and had a choice between the 69 and 72 - hands down on the 69 - but is all in the eye of the beholder.

Worst case - on the electrics you may have to change out the univolt - to an intelli power - $140.00 US

Worst case - on the propane - new tanks and/or regulator and replace old copper.

Worst case - on the Umbilical - change out and rewire the cord to the truck.

Mods - well not sure what mods you are looking at or want.....

Good luck with your decision.
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Old 01-18-2006, 07:51 PM   #20
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We bought it!

We just closed the deal for $4K. Hope it works out to be a good deal for us and not a money pit. Thanks for everyones help and information I don't think we would have had the courage to make the deal without you!
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Old 01-18-2006, 08:07 PM   #21
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Congrats on your new baby. So are you going to join the WBCCAOAII?

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Old 01-18-2006, 08:57 PM   #22
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Welcome to the Overlander club!

Welcome to the wonderful world of Airstream. You also are in the "Overlander" club as well as the Vintage club.
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Old 01-18-2006, 11:24 PM   #23
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......and the 69'ers Club Welcome.

If you have any questions at all even little ones - we have all had them at one time or another or will have them shortly. So if you can not find what you are looking for throughout your searches here - do not be afraid to ask the question even though it may have been asked a 100 times before...

That is a great price and now you have $500 to get you started.

I forgot to add on my list we changed our old Univolt out - we had it bench tested by professionals and the transformer was deader than a door knob. Sometimes it is worth it if just the capacitors are toast - to replace them at $15.00 each they still make them - believe it or not. General Electric of Canada still pumps them out - but they are hard to find and they have to be special ordered.

Be sure to check here first before getting any work done outside -there are lots of recommendations, both reputable dealers and DIY hints that require minimal skill - just lots of photos and patience and this crew here can walk you through pretty much anything. Or the very least give you both sides of the issue so that you can make an educated decision.
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Old 01-19-2006, 05:16 AM   #24
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Well, about that "money pit" thing. I think they all turn out to be something we really enjoy spending our time and money on. Remember it's a 69 and no doubt will need some things fixed or replaced. Mine is a 78, it was certainly ready to camp when I bought it, BUT there were so many things that I just wanted to change a little. Then the A/C decided 28 years was enough and I decided 28 years was probably enough for the water heater too. Then the shore water inlet came loose and was put to rest with the A/C and WH. It's truely been a labor of love for both me and my check book. It doesn't seem so bad if you do all the work you can yourself and then do the rest as you can afford. Happy camping.

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