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Old 08-08-2018, 11:04 AM   #29
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Get the VIN off unit and take it to DMV last place it was registered and with VIN, will be easy for computer to locate it and last registered owners. Likely have to have death certificate and your birth certificate to get lost or missing title.
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Old 08-08-2018, 11:11 AM   #30
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Don't over complicate it. Check with the state you want to register it in (Colorado?). A vehicle that old may only require a 'Bill of Sale" to register it. It that's the case create a bill of sale from your grandfather to you and just register the thing in Colorado. If its owned by your family no issue. Colorado is not going to track down the previous owner of an almost 50yr old trailer.


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Old 08-08-2018, 12:52 PM   #31
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There's a mix of information here - and some of it can steer you wrong depending on the state you're trying to do this in.

I would look carefully at each state's rules for "abandoned" "unregistered" "bonded title" etc before I tried moving the trailer. Your strongest claim is in Florida, where the trailer currently sits, has been sitting on the property for a long time, and you can show the best case for provenance. Attempting to register the trailer in Colorado may create issues if it was titled last in Florida, for example - they may just send you back to the Florida DMV to resolve this.

The other issue is that some states, like mine here in Washington, have complex rules about claiming abandoned vehicles, and you can only do this if you are a licensed towing and storage company in this state, having towed the vehicle off someone's property, held it in storage for x number of days and then attaching a lien to the property for the amount of the bill. Then it must be disposed of at auction.

- that's not a situation you want to put yourself in.

Other states, like Arizona, have a bonded title system, where you pay a bond based on the value of the vehicle, which they will issue you a title on. Should the 'rightful' owner come back and claim the vehicle, they will be paid the amount of the bond for the value of their property.

Do some research, but my suggestion would be to listen to the people who are telling you to handle it as part of the estate in Florida - that's the strongest claim, and lends the most authority to what you're attempting to do here.

Edit: it looks like Florida and Colorado may also offer the ability to issue bonded titles - which would be worth looking into as well: https://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/forms/BTR/82033.pdf - Contact DMV first to find out what you need to do to qualify for a bonded title.

search for 'florida bonded car titles' and you'll get ads from dozens of companies who issue surety bonds for Florida titles.
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Old 08-08-2018, 01:07 PM   #32
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This shouldn't be too difficult to fix. If if was willed to you, get a certified copy of that document and with it a notarized statement from the Executor stating that you indeed are the person (s) to whom it has been given. Then apply for a replacement title in your Grandparents name. When that arrives, fill out the form to transfer title. Sounds simple, it just takes some steps. Hope it all goes well for you. Enjoy your heirloom Airstream. Heirstream?
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Old 08-08-2018, 01:19 PM   #33
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Everyone might want to get caught up on the current state of affairs in the other thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f368...am-185093.html

Sounds like the OP may be approaching a dead end, due to the poor condition of the trailer IMO.

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Old 08-08-2018, 03:02 PM   #34
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Everyone might want to get caught up on the current state of affairs in the other thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f368...am-185093.html

Sounds like the OP may be approaching a dead end, due to the poor condition of the trailer IMO.

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OP here, just figured I'd give an update:


As I stated in the other thread, at this point I am just going to try and figure out how to sell it "as-is". With the condition it is in, we would be in over our heads trying to restore it and none of us are in a position to even be able to take the time off to travel and enjoy it, even if it was restored. None of us have a vehicle that could pull it anyways. We did talk to our lawyer who is handling our family affairs and he recommends just trying to file for an abandoned property title. This was also recommended by the DMV. It would be too costly to try go through probate for something like this that isn't worth much.
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Old 08-08-2018, 03:24 PM   #35
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I will say it again, "bonded" title is the solution...others will do the work and you just write a small check ($300 or so probably). Or, sell it without title and make the new buyer do the same amount of work. New buyer may "charge" you more for his trouble...you will find out when they counter offer.


If the trailer has not been register in long time, it is probably that the records have been purged from the DMV systems.
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Old 08-09-2018, 11:16 AM   #36
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I am trying to gain possession of my grandparent's AS, but the title is MIA and they have both passed away. I know this will probably not be an easy task...but I know I am not the only person to have been in a situation like this. I would assume I need to apply for a lost/duplicate title. That probably won't be easy since the past owners are not alive, but hopefully not impossible. Does anyone have any advice they would like to send my way to make this process less painful?
When you go for the new tile also send both of your grandparents death certificates and I think that might help. Also if you have the license plats ID send that with. Also look in the ID plate on the outside of the trailer and snap a picture of it and print it out have it notarized and send that with.
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:46 AM   #37
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OP here, just figured I'd give an update:


As I stated in the other thread, at this point I am just going to try and figure out how to sell it "as-is". With the condition it is in, we would be in over our heads trying to restore it and none of us are in a position to even be able to take the time off to travel and enjoy it, even if it was restored. None of us have a vehicle that could pull it anyways. We did talk to our lawyer who is handling our family affairs and he recommends just trying to file for an abandoned property title. This was also recommended by the DMV. It would be too costly to try go through probate for something like this that isn't worth much.
Your lawyer’s advice is not the direction to go and I have a hard time believing anyone at DMV would recommend the abandoned property process. The most direct route is always the best. Get in touch with the WBCCI and find out what you can based upon the number first. That information is a simple phone call or email away.

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Old 08-11-2018, 10:28 AM   #38
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The easiest solution to this problem is to register it in Vermont. You can do this from your home, anywhere in the USA by printing the paper work out, filling it out and sending it to the Vermont DMV. You will get Vermont registration and plates back. Then, if you want you can take the registration to your local DMV and get your title.
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The easiest solution to this problem is to register it in Vermont. You can do this from your home, anywhere in the USA by printing the paper work out, filling it out and sending it to the Vermont DMV. You will get Vermont registration and plates back. Then, if you want you can take the registration to your local DMV and get your title.
Shermy, have you done this? From what I’ve read Vermont requires a Vin/ID number. This is one of his problems. Apparently the plate is missing and there are no records from his grandparents showing this information.

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My apologies. I didn't realize the vin was missing.
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A reminder from Post #33 here that there is a lot of info to digest, in order to make a meaningful comment at this point.

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Everyone might want to get caught up on the current state of affairs in the other thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f368...am-185093.html

Sounds like the OP may be approaching a dead end, due to the poor condition of the trailer IMO.

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Also the OP appears to be giving up on a possible restoration:

[click on orange arrow to go to this other thread]
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Thanks for the info, I have contacted an inspector that was listed as being local. You are correct about this being a hard choice emotionally as I first had dreams of fixing up the AS to keep in the family, but reality has set in that this is not in the cards right now. I really hope that there is way it can be salvaged and fixed up for someone else to enjoy rather than just turned into scrap metal!
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The VIN plate is not missing, it's visible forward of the entrance door in the photos in the other (linked) thread.
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