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Old 04-11-2013, 05:45 PM   #1
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Finally got the title from OR DMV and went to a local vehicle licensing. $4200.00 I got the tabs for our 2012 FC19.
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:08 PM   #2
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That's because they pop you for the sales tax you thought you'd avoided by buying in Oregon.
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Not counting the variables encountered in person-to-person sales, any licensed business in one state will not charge you the sales taxes for that state if it is known that you will export the unit to a different state. Your state will always catch up to the sales tax when you inevitably have to license it in your home state. There's not much way around this.

One exception is units bought through dealerships in Montana. Montana dealers don't offer much service after a sale but attorneys in Montana cities commonly work with their hometown dealers to incorporate and license your unit in that state -- something you will have to maintain year after year. You'll see a number of high-cost fulltimer units (usually motorhomes) with MT plates in campgrounds now and then. From as little as a week visit, these owners are seriously dodging their home state sales taxes. It doesn't wash in your home state but few are caught. I've heard of a few big ticket Montana RV or boat sales nabbed by obvious Minnesota residents -- not many at that sadly. It comes down to ethics -- step up and pay the sales tax if you want to live in a state where you wish your children & grandchildren to be educated or guarded from opportunists.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:19 PM   #4
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Not counting the variables encountered in person-to-person sales, any licensed business in one state will not charge you the sales taxes for that state if it is known that you will export the unit to a different state. Your state will always catch up to the sales tax when you inevitably have to license it in your home state. There's not much way around this.

One exception is units bought through dealerships in Montana. Montana dealers don't offer much service after a sale but attorneys in Montana cities commonly work with their hometown dealers to incorporate and license your unit in that state -- something you will have to maintain year after year. You'll see a number of high-cost fulltimer units (usually motorhomes) with MT plates in campgrounds now and then. From as little as a week visit, these owners are seriously dodging their home state sales taxes. It doesn't wash in your home state but few are caught. I've heard of a few big ticket Montana RV or boat sales nabbed by obvious residents here in Minnesota -- not many at that sadly... It comes down to ethics -- step up and pay the sales tax if you want to live in a state where you wish your children & grandchildren be educated or guarded from opportunists.
Or simply live in California where they will tax you on top of any salestax you may have paid to another state. Plus, you can tow it home on the worst roads and bridges in the country.

Bottom line...trailers are real property and should by most fair tax laws be exempt from sales tax. But many states like California double tax. No one has a responsibility to pay double taxation, whatever the stated reason.
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Phrunes, sorry if I did not make myself clear. One's home state will charge the going sales tax rate (which I assume is the same for a car, truck or RV purchase). Licensed dealers in other states should not charge you the sales tax for their state. (yes, that's too good to be true) I purchased my Safari in Iowa and paid zero tax to drive it away with temporary plates. Licensing in my home state incurred the same costs as if I had purchased it at home. I knew that going into it.

Relocate a used unit from residence in a previous state? You shouldn't be paying sales tax in the new state -- just standard licensing fees. At least that's what I'd expect until whacked upside the head with a 'what were you thinking' 2x4. Don't think I've lost it that much yet.
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Phrunes, sorry if I did not make myself clear. One's home state will charge the going sales tax rate (which I assume is the same for a car, truck or RV purchase). Licensed dealers in other states should not charge you the sales tax for their state. (yes, that's too good to be true) I purchased my Safari in Iowa and paid zero tax to drive it away with temporary plates. Licensing in my home state incurred the same costs as if I had purchased it at home. I knew that going into it.

Relocate a used unit from residence in a previous state? You shouldn't be paying sales tax in the new state -- just standard licensing fees. At least that's what I'd expect until whacked upside the head with a 'what were you thinking' 2x4. Don't think I've lost it that much yet.
When I moved to Washington I had to prove that I had paid sales tax on all my vehicles no matter how old or how long I had owned them. If the sales tax that I had paid was less than the current Washington tax I had to pay the difference. If I couldn't find an original bill of sale showing sales tax paid I had to pay again even though registered in Calif. required paying tax, the registration was good enough to prove tax was paid. It is seldom fun dealing with motor vehicle licensing.

The other fun thing Washington accepted my commercial drivers license including all endorsements but they would not accept my motorcycle license. Not only did I have to take the written test but also the riding test. They trusted me with a 80,000 truck but not with a 800 pound motorcycle.
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When I moved to Washington I had to prove that I had paid sales tax on all my vehicles no matter how old or how long I had owned them. If the sales tax that I had paid was less than the current Washington tax I had to pay the difference. If I couldn't find an original bill of sale showing sales tax paid I had to pay again even though registered in Calif. required paying tax, the registration was good enough to prove tax was paid. It is seldom fun dealing with motor vehicle licensing.

The other fun thing Washington accepted my commercial drivers license including all endorsements but they would not accept my motorcycle license. Not only did I have to take the written test but also the riding test. They trusted me with a 80,000 truck but not with a 800 pound motorcycle.
Yep, and CA to WA and reverse is the worst. California charges Use tax...so they dont care if you already paid sales tax elsewhere. It is AWFUL moving a boat over 30 ft. Long...taxes are based upon county berthed...if you move it it is next to impossible to get it changed. Many people are paying taxes to two or more counties because they just give up. Not to mention trailers carry a license plate based on your residence.
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I knew I had to pay the use tax, it's just a pretty big chunk of change to pay, luckily renewals will be a lot less
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I knew I had to pay the use tax, it's just a pretty big chunk of change to pay, luckily renewals will be a lot less
Unless you own a pickup in CA...all pickups are treated as commercial. Now, let's say you own a 2001 Ford Ranger and your neighbor owns a 2001 Ford Excursion...your neighbor will pay $50-$80 for registration...you will pay $275 -$350 for the registration on the pickup. My TV is an 04 F150...my plates were $458 this year. I don't hire it out...they just don't want to mess with trying to figure out which ones of the 70% of CA pickups are never used for commercial purposes and which of the 30% aren't.
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If I purchase a car in Scottsdale, AZ, they charge over 10% sales tax and collect it, even though it will be titled and registered in Indiana. When I get to Indiana to get plates and title, their sales tax is 7%. I get credit for the 7% paid in Arizona, but the additional funds above 7% are not refunded. If I purchased a vehicle with 5% sales tax in some other state, Indiana would collect the 2% additional tax.

At least we get credit for a trade in and only pay tax on the cash difference. Back in the late 60s, Rhode Island charged sales tax based upon the list price, regardless of what you paid or any trade in value.
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On cars we get the offset in CA too, but they seem to take liberties on boats in particular...same scam...you pay tax on what the state says its worth, not what you actually paid for it.
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Yep, and CA to WA and reverse is the worst. California charges Use tax...so they dont care if you already paid sales tax elsewhere. It is AWFUL moving a boat over 30 ft. Long...taxes are based upon county berthed...if you move it it is next to impossible to get it changed. Many people are paying taxes to two or more counties because they just give up. Not to mention trailers carry a license plate based on your residence.
When I moved my boat to Washington, Los Angeles still wanted to tax me because I lived in LA, they didn't care where the boat was. I had to give up the U.S. documentation and title it in Washington in order to stop the LA tax. Back in the early 90's the property tax on it was over $1000 a year, kind of stiff for a boat that lived in another state.
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I live in Washington and bought my Airstream in Montana. After towing it home I went in to one of the private license dealers we have here. I brought my bill of sale in and she started filling out the forms. She asked me "what color?" and I told her it was an Airstream and they are not painted. She still didn't get it so I had to explain the whole aluminum thing and she still looked at me with that vacant far away look. I finally told her to put down "silver" as the color.

When she got to the part where she figured out the tax on the purchase price she said, "Whoa, do you know what this is going to cost you?" Uh, yeah, I did.

I have purchased a few cars just over the border in Idaho and they fill out the registration and collect the WA sales taxes. They forward all of this paperwork to the state of WA and the license and title get sent to my home. It is a nice relationship they have with the state and it does make my experience much easier.
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If I had made a dealer purchase it would have all been taken care of, private sales are a little trickier especially in my case since the OR DMV had held up the title. Oh well it's done and I have a WA plate
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