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Old 10-15-2006, 10:11 PM   #1
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No Title or VIN.....

Hello Everyone.

Brand new member here, Maybe a new owner. Not too sure yet.

I put a small deposit down on a AS primarily so I can get some time to answer some questions. It is what I believe to be a run down 30'
Sovereign 1968 model with twin beds. This is from extensively comparing pictures of a site of Vintage Airstream photos.

The problem I have is there is no way to identify this thing because the plate near the door is missing (as well as the title) and the seller never had the title, just a Bill of Sale. I can only wonder what hoops The NCDMV will have me go through. Do you think getting this thing registered in North Carolina is possible? The only piece of info I have is a stamped number on the tongue that starts with G and is followed by four numbers as in "GXXXX". Is this any help?

There is also some stampings on the hitch right near the ball socket that says "Marvel" and possibly a part number or something. This kind of looks more like hitch manufacturer information but I don't know.

Is there any other place to look for the VIN number?

Also there is some Wally Byam stickers on it and five big black faded numbers on the rear above the AIRSTREAM letters.

thanks,

Greg
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Old 10-15-2006, 10:19 PM   #2
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Hi Greg -- and welcome to the Forums!

There is something of a guide if you look at Airstream's FAQs. Yes, the second location for VINs is embossed on the A-frame of the trailer. I don't think that hitch info is anything other than an OEM supplier's product number. I do know that each state's DMV has a process for re-registering vintage units without documentation. You will have to check in with your local DMV office. It's not supposed to be that hard...

There could be a lot of frogs out there before you find your prince. No single sad story can replace patience -- it might pay off to look at a number of units. Still, if you believe in your project you can make it real and turn it into a valuable personal adventure.

WBCCI numbers should be red and on the top front of the trailer. The numbers get re-used as old registrations lapse, so it may take seeing if anybody has old WBCCI catalogs identifying previous owners from approximately the last period some previous owner was in WBCCI. Stay tuned -- rephrase your question by replying to this (your very own) post if you wish to draw out further interest in your situation.
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Old 10-15-2006, 11:10 PM   #3
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Seen in Hemmings...

I don't know how or if this might work. Just something I saw once in Hemmings and saved as I have an untitled, 1969 Reinell runabout (I do, however, have the title on the custom trailer for it--go figure). I haven't yet tried to title the Reinell.

http://www.broadwaytitle.com/index.htm

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Old 10-16-2006, 06:18 AM   #4
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Thanks for the responses. I am constant wonderment as to how we got by in the days before the internet.

Canoe Stream, I am on my way to the DMV today to see what the process is. I am starting to believe (guess) that the "Gxxxx" code stamped on the A-frame is a serial number from a prior re-registration. The are 3/8" tall stampings and located on the top of the A-frame inside the gas tank hoop on the curbside rail.

Precisely, if possible, where would the OEM stampings be located on a '68 vintage Sovereign?

I am a mechanical engineer looking for a project but I have 'till Friday to commit and the Full Monte stories both excite me challenge wise and scare me dollar wise.

Thanks again for both of your help and , Bronze Dancer, I have saved the Title site to my favorites for future reference.

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Hi again Greg -- VINs were fairly abbreviated in the 50s. I really believe Airstream gained some consistency in the 60s and you probably don't have the VIN yet until it matches their pre-80s VIN pdf page. I don't think there'd be a G in any VIN. More online eyes will probably see this thread if you ask again for a '68 Airstream owner to respond -- say, maybe in late afternoon. That keeps it up during the busier evening hours.

VINs tend to be stamped into the A-frame steel rectangular tube and not on any added parts (eg, ignore the hitch coupler). Letters and numbers are usually 1/2" block style. They are frequently obscured by layers of paint, weight distribution U-bolts or other added hardware. The location is not real consistent but I'd look on either the top or side of the A-frame. Curbside is more common, maybe not too far forward from where it emerges from the trailer body.
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Canoe,

any idea where this pdf might be located these days?
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