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Old 12-30-2015, 12:18 PM   #15
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I would walk away sounds like a bunch of potential grief

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Old 12-30-2015, 12:48 PM   #16
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I know, Earl : )

Has anyone ever gone through the process of registering and titling an airstream or other vehicle without a serial number in the event that the plate is not legit and the serial number I was provided belongs to another airstream?
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Old 12-30-2015, 12:52 PM   #17
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As an addendum, in Texas, you are not going to be able to proceed with the registration and titling finalization until you get the trailer inspected and it meets all safety requirements in Texas. You can get a bill of sale, but then you will need to transport the trailer on a truck bed to wherever you are going to bring it up to standard.
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:13 PM   #18
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vin number in Texas

Be very wary if the VIN number plate has been removed and the "bonded" title does not match the numbers on the tongue. Certain cities in Texas stop trailers and confiscate any that do not have a VIN on the chassis as stolen and then sell them at auction to augment the city coffers using the same laws that allow confiscation in drug crimes. It does not matter if you have a valid tag and have kept it current for years.

Stay out of Alvarado, TX and another notorious for this near Houston (on line posts). Dallas high school bike team’s trailer in police custody | Dallas Morning News They will also confiscate an obviously production made trailer like an Airstream if it has a "home built" title.

Unless you can document the number on the tongue matches the VIN, you are asking for trouble!
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:39 PM   #19
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missing vin

i had the same problem, i had a bill of sale which listed the vin, but state inspector could read vin on airstream tag.

he went to the curb side of the hitch on the straight portion and showed where the vin was stamped. the vin only applies to the trailer frame and axles. the air stream serial number is on the plate. you could remove the whole shell on the trailer and still register it with this vin stampd in the frame.
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:54 PM   #20
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As an addendum, in Texas, you are not going to be able to proceed with the registration and titling finalization until you get the trailer inspected and it meets all safety requirements in Texas. You can get a bill of sale, but then you will need to transport the trailer on a truck bed to wherever you are going to bring it up to standard.
Not so - trailers of this weight do NOT have to be inspected here in Texas. The fairly new law only pertains to those over 4,000 lbs.
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Old 12-30-2015, 02:07 PM   #21
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A member PMed me and suggested that the 6-digit number on the plates may actually be the serial number and start with an O instead of zero. Does anyone know anything about a 6 digit serial number system and how to decode? If that's the case, it might not be titled at all, and much easier for me to take ownership of. I think.
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Old 12-30-2015, 02:09 PM   #22
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Not so - trailers of this weight do NOT have to be inspected here in Texas. The fairly new law only pertains to those over 4,000 lbs.
Even light trailers have to be inspected (and weighed) once when retitling in Texas with an out-of-state title. They may have the same requirement for bonded-title transactions, though I don't know that to be the case.
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Old 12-30-2015, 02:53 PM   #23
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Just thought I'd put in my two cents. I believe that before you can get a bonded title you will need to have a VIN inspection (what they call a 68A inspection) done. That has to be completed by law enforcement. The folks in your area that may do those inspections is the Travis County Sheriff's Combined Auto Theft Task Force, 509 W. 11th St. Austin TX. (512) 854-9735. They should be able to find the confidential VIN number, if they even had them in the 60's. Good luck
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Old 12-30-2015, 03:02 PM   #24
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my brother in law was able to sell a trailer that had no title in Colorado and there was no issue. The records office told him that it happens all the time. The VIN is on the plate to the right of the entry door, at least it is on mine. Once the VIN is established then a thorough search can be done to see if it was reported as stolen or was involved in an insurance scam in its history and if not it should be good to go
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Old 12-30-2015, 03:04 PM   #25
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Lots of talk, little of it accurate in such cases.

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Texas Department of Transportation / Department of Motorvehicles.
(800) 558-9368 www.txdot.gov/forms

There is a special class of motor vehicle in the State of Texas. Junk or abandon.

Regardless, of condition; if the vehicle ( in Texas a motor vehicle is anything that has wheels and can be taken on a highway or street and IS NOT a boat) is considered a Motor vehicle and has to have a title. ( Farm equipment is exempt).

Now, contact the police department where the trailer is located and ask for them to inspect the AS. If they are not Barnie Fife, they have data that allows them to find the VIN/serial number for the vehicle. There is a directory that shows all the (secret ) spots that vin/serial numbers are located and trained officers know this.
( sometimes on the axel)

When the trailer was built a "certificate of orgin" was created. From that a "certificate of title" is created and TAX is paid. (Home built trailers did not apply)

Using that data and the plate number, they (the police) can run an inquiry that will tell you exactly who the trailer is tilted to in about 5 minutes.

This will also tell you if there is a LIEN holder! That is the only person you gave to worry about. Period!

Next, attempt to contact either the the title holder and/or lien holder via certified mail at the address of record of the title/lien holder. Give that letter 15 days to get a reply. If no reply, your almost home.

In the news paper of record in the county where the vehicle is located run the title holder or lien holders name in the legal section saying you need to talk to them. Time this along with the certified letter. Do not say what you need them for you just need a call.

See Texas Transportation Code 683.001 - section 223 area under business, Property & Tax.

The subject vehicle may be abandoned and if so you may apply for lost, stolen or abandon title and once aquired you have your new to you Globe Trotter.

The TXDot forms will give you instructions to follow. Once you have followed all the requirements under Texas Law you have clear title.

Please don't take offense To all the posts and posters, great information, but the above data is the facts for dealing with this situation. Been dealing with this for over 40 years so save your breath just read the Code.

You may find that whom ever owned the vehicle is no longer with us and once you have that title, who ever is trying to sell it to you can kiss old rose unless they have a lien. Talk to the justice of the peace in the area and they will most likely help you and if necessary assist you when time comes to hook up to the trailer. (send a deputy to stand by)

Have a tow truck tie on to it and drag it to your place and move on.

Suspecting that it is stolen because a flimsy vehicle tag is missing may be a little premature.

Look on TXDot web page for your forms. Get all this accomplished before you pay any money. A hand written bill of sale with fix value and protect you from any other people trying to claim ownership when all they have is their hand out.

Happy trails
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Old 12-30-2015, 03:33 PM   #26
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I just purchased a Caravel 1967 trailer with weight of 2450 lbs and had to get it inspected because it had an out of state title from Michigan and they did not care how much the trailer weighed. The trailer had been in TX for the last 12 yrs but they never registered it here since they just parked it and left it alone. TX made me bring it up to code for lights , brakes and clearance lighting before I could register the trailer. Big pain.
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:40 PM   #27
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You might be able to get some good advice from your county Sheriff's Combined Auto Theft Task Force (they also do trailers). They can do what is called a VTR-68-A inspection and if they feel the trailer is not stolen the DMV can assign a new VIN. At the least, the deputy can give you his expert opinion on any legal issues you might encounter.

I have used this service in Bell County and have been very happy with the help they provided.
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Sometimes, there is a facsimile of the Lifetime Warranty attached to an inside closet door, showing the serial number.
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