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Old 12-21-2009, 02:37 PM   #197
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The trailers were just too expensive for the amount of work they would need but I wouldn't have been afraid of them.
I think that folks who don't like the thought of the flooded trailers have never rebuilt an old trailer or anything else that is old and icky.

HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO WORK ON RENTAL PROPERTY???? Talk about working with the nasty stuff - I could tell you stories. Ever been a rental house where the people are on HUD assistance - the pigs should live outside!!! Have you ever seen a plumber bite his fingernails after he has worked on your toilet - at least the smart ones wait until they have washed their hands......

I have rebuilt an old trailer and you wouldn't belive the nasty stuff you come across.
The pro's of a new trailer would outweigh an old trailer because you would be starting with a good solid frame, new axles, and the interior could be rebuilt just as it was new IF YOU PUT THE TIME AND EFFORT INTO THE PROJECT. This would mean removing the interior walls and replacing the insulation. The wiring would be just fine - probably have to replace any lower fixtures and outlets. A good scrubbing would clean up the remainder.
Here are some pictures of when I took the belly pan down from my trailer. How about some mouse dung, dirt, cigarette butts and cartons from the factory etc.... it's all there!
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:36 PM   #198
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Assuming someone does buy these trailers...will they continue to be the AS's from the dark side? Will the owners of these horribly disfigured and ruined trailers be shunned from these pages, or accepted? There is another thread about a young man who purchased a damaged newer trailer and is attempting to rebuild it on a minor budget...He is one of my personal heroes for his service to this country, and his buy-in into a slice of the American Dream-a slice in the form of rebuilding a damaged Airstream trailer-one that was new, but wrecked during delivery. Would the purchase of one of these flooded trailers be any different than this example or different from removing critter infestations and ruined insulation, etc, etc from a 30-40 year old trailer? If the collective forum thought these trailers should have been scrapped, then we missed the opportunity to control the trailer's fate by not opting into my "idiotic" attempt at buying them. We collectively could have prevented these trailers from ever being restored...but do you think the amazingly talented people of this forum would have let that happen? I think not.

These trailers are not going to go away. They may not sell for a price low enough to vindicate how the collective forum feels about them, and they may not be the collective forum's cup of tea, but someone, sometime will come onto this forum and acknowledge their purchase of one of these trailers. Sooner, or later. I say we can have a moment of silence for them and then turn the collective genius of this forum into a mighty arm of restoration for them. Perhaps along the way, we will truly learn how badly these trailers were damaged and learn empirically what it takes to restore a flooded trailer. Who knows? Perhaps some famous Movie, TV or music star will ultimately end up with one of these trailers. At which point we can all ooh and ahh from a distance...who knows?
ol' bill, (blown away by the total purchase price of these trlrs, but still thinkin' about them)

I doubt they will be shunned in any way, and in fact many members on here considered the idea of getting one. From what I have seen in these forums, anyone buying one and attempting to repair it will get NOTHING but help and praise, crud, I have not recieved one "oh, you should have left that one to die" comment on ours, and have gotten many PM's of encourgement when members saw the state of the roof damage my wife and I bought into.

The problem with these, and reason for people commenting on these is not that any owner will be shunned, but a collective concensus that any buyer should be WELL warned of the state of things, by people who don't have dog in the fight, or trailer in the park, if you will. To pay 16+ thousand dollars for a trailer that needs all or most of the work any older $3-4k trailer needs is what I think most of us on here want to prevent, even more so if it's some one who hasn't a clue about AS's in general, or these streams in particular.

If you told us YOU had decided to buy one, as you imply you may if you get the chance to inspect one in Utah, well, I am sure we will all be glad for you and figure YOU know what you are doing and what you are willing to take on. and, we want pictures of what you discover..
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:52 PM   #199
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I think that folks who don't like the thought of the flooded trailers have never rebuilt an old trailer or anything else that is old and icky.
I have, and the insulation in my 40 year old trailer was actually in very good shape in the walls. Whereas the insulation in the walls of the flooded trailers spent some period of time soaking in sewer water. As did the floors, cabinets, appliances, cushions, curtains, etc.


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To pay 16+ thousand dollars for a trailer that needs all or most of the work any older $3-4k trailer needs is what I think most of us on here want to prevent, even more so if it's some one who hasn't a clue about AS's in general, or these streams in particular.
I've seen a lot of people start restoration projects (cars and trailers) because they wanted to get into the hobby cheap. But buying an unrestored disaster is NOT the best way to get into a hobby. Getting a nearly finished project that someone has already put a lot of good quality work into before becoming burned out - that is the best deal you can get in any hobby! But if you're just starting out, you don't want to be the poor guy who gets in over his head and ends up burned out on the project and selling it to some lucky fellow down the line.

I think it would be very interesting to see someone tear into one and restore it, but only if they really know what they're getting into. If they have to come here to ask about what it might entail, I would encourage them to run - find a vintage trailer that will only need half the work and do that first.

The flooded trailers will be a lot more work than that Bambi with the crushed roof - he could probably camp in it right now.

Bill, go get one, maybe if you open one up and find it's not so bad, everyone will change their tune
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The pic of the " dealers" standing next to the blown-out sheetrock should say it all.
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Old 12-22-2009, 04:14 PM   #201
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The pic of the " dealers" standing next to the blown-out sheetrock should say it all.
Thats just a classic shot huh
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Old 12-22-2009, 05:29 PM   #202
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There's one of them on Ebay now. It's a 27' International and is up to $19,100 and the reserve in not met.
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:33 PM   #203
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just talked to the folks in Utah-indicated they had started with 8 of them, sold all but this one....hmmm. at any rate $38900 is the buy it now price if you pick it up in Utah. 2 went to Idaho, at least 2 to Calif, one to Fla. Couldn't write fast enough to get destinations of the others. This info conflicts a little with previous posts in this thread, so-well, make your own decisions about that.

38.9 is too far over the top for a complete rebuild (for me). Although even if an owner decided to completely rebuild, there would be a great deal of trailer that has not been damaged by the flood. But, investing 1000 hours to rebuild and probably another 10k$-(yes, I know many will say more), it becomes too cost prohibitive. Perhaps a trip to the Spokane AS dealer is in order..... One thing is for sure, If I were single, I'd be in a new AS! Sorry, toots, I know I am a spendthrift, but I am what I am.
food for thought, none-the less.
I thank everyone for the great input into this thread. I apologize for my immaturity and lack of knowledge of Forum usage when I started this thread. It has been quite a ride. Perhaps the Global Warming Gods have more weather damaged Airstreams in the future. At least those of us alive that have witnessed this thread will be forearmed and forewarned if other such trailers show up.

Hope to meet many of you as we (I) travel.
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Old 12-22-2009, 07:48 PM   #204
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You're an old hand on the forums now, Bill

That seems like an outrageous price to me for as much work as the trailer is going to need. I could buy a vintage trailer and spend $38k total to do everything I could imagine to it. And probably still have change left over.
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Our friends in Utah have the 2009 27 Airstream International Signature Series with two days remaining on the auction. I was looking over the pictures again. They did a pretty good job cleaning all the parts you can see on this one.. even state they dropped the belly pan and dried the flooring or something like that. In this shot you can still see evidence of the mud way up on the fridge cooling coils.. You would think that someone who is willing to plunk down as much money as they are asking would question why there is mud this high up?! Thats more than light water damage.
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for 38k you could buy a very nice used airstream that doesnt need anything.why would somebody pay that kind of money for a disaster.
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:39 AM   #207
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for 38k you could buy a very nice used airstream that doesnt need anything.why would somebody pay that kind of money for a disaster.
if you take these guys at their word, you'd be getting a brand new unit with "light water damage"
that, to me, implies somebody walked inside before toweling off....

I sure hope whoever buys these gems have done their homework
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:30 PM   #208
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My favorite part of their listing:
"This unit was in a light water loss in Woodstock, GA."

I mentioned this before but I figured it out, they are letting you know that this 27 footer left Woodstock Georgia with a little bit water that's been determined to be missing from Woodstock

Nothing like full disclosure in their description!
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Ridgwayk's former 25 footer on ebay now

Ridgwayk has a reply to my question on the other thread. He spent a lot of time in it and the insurance company replaced it. I am staying away. Here is the link. 2007 AIRSTREAM SAFARI -WATER DAMAGE-BEST BUY :eBay Motors (item 270512516458 end time Jan-15-10 15:08:00 PST)
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if you take these guys at their word, you'd be getting a brand new unit with "light water damage"
that, to me, implies somebody walked inside before toweling off....

I sure hope whoever buys these gems have done their homework
Maybe they mean as opposed to having been damaged by "Heavy Water"
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