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Old 11-30-2009, 12:28 AM   #183
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date of flood?

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I have recently been looking at an Airstream in another state that was purchased by the seller in Ga. Does anyone know the date of the flood so I can check when this trailer was sold to the current owner?
The flood was September 16, according to this thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f44/...elp-56527.html

There's also a list of the trailers, and photos, that were to be auctioned off at the beginning of this thread.

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Old 11-30-2009, 08:19 AM   #184
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I have recently been looking at an Airstream in another state that was purchased by the seller in Ga. Does anyone know the date of the flood so I can check when this trailer was sold to the current owner?
SEE POST #30 in this thread.

and just the purchase date is only one clue.. ie: we have friends who bought a trailer in May, but didn't actually take it home until July, it sat on the lot the whole time..
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Old 11-30-2009, 09:33 AM   #185
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9/21/09 Date of flooding

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I have recently been looking at an Airstream in another state that was purchased by the seller in Ga. Does anyone know the date of the flood so I can check when this trailer was sold to the current owner?
The date of the flood was 9/21/09. Count on 4-6 feet of water inside of the trailer (based on personal experience with that flood) depending where on the lot the trailer was placed.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:51 AM   #186
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is this one of the flooded trailers?
2009 27 Airstream International Signature Series:eBay Motors (item 230413618101 end time Dec-24-09 09:36:10 PST)

My dream has always been to own an Airstream, I'd like to bid on it- how much do you think it's worth?
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:22 AM   #187
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is this one of the flooded trailers?
2009 27 Airstream International Signature Series:eBay Motors (item 230413618101 end time Dec-24-09 09:36:10 PST)

My dream has always been to own an Airstream, I'd like to bid on it- how much do you think it's worth?
Boondocked, welcome to the forums! Yes this is one of those units. Don't make your dream of owning an Airstream into a nightmare with this unit.
The health risks won't be worth it.

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Old 12-20-2009, 11:43 AM   #188
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thanks Jeff,
would the only problem be the mold/growies?
the unit would be 'open' whenever its used
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:56 AM   #189
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Boon', since you are in JC, why not go over to customer relations and talk to some of the people over there about the risks you would take if you bought one of these units?

They need to be gutted—all the insulation, foam, wood, would be compromised with toxic things. Metal can be cleaned to some extent, but you'd have to wear a moon suit to do it.

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Old 12-20-2009, 03:54 PM   #190
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Boondockdad, I wouldn't go near that AS on a bet. Not only did it suffer water damage, which in and of itself is bad enough, but the water that flooeded those trailers was not exactly pristine - it wasn't like a Perrier factory flooded.

At the time of the flooding we knew someone who got caught in the water and ended up in the hospital with very serious medical issues due bacteria. Personally, I wouldn't take possession of one of those trailers if they were free.
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:10 PM   #191
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why not find yourself a nice older Airstream, save a bunch of money and use it to update it to your own taste. That has been done a few times, and quite well...just check the photo section here.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:36 AM   #192
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Welcome to the forums, and possibly a new lifestyle..lol,

To answer your question Boondockdad, it's worth about 2k-3k.

You can either consider that the scrap price, or the price for an older unit that needs a COMPLETE rebuild. All the wiring and electrics were wet. All the insulation within the walls was wet. All the furniture and flooring was wet. and they were all wet with toxic waste. The biggest "danger" to any travel trailer or house for that matter, is water... these have had a bad experience with the worst thing that could happen to them. I note for all their "cleaning and detailing" there are still mud/stain lines on the curtains, and just plain old mud inside the heater or water heater compartment..

NOTE, they point out NO FACTORY WARRENTY. In my narrow view the ONLY reason to buy a vehicle new is for just that.

They (this dealer) will not, and you know AS will not, stand behind these when they start having problems, which will be as soon as you sign the papers. IMHO.

Do some internet research about cars that have been bought unsuspectingly, that were in Katrina and other events, and the long term problems people have had with them. For what the bidding is starting at for this trailer, a person can do a little searching and find a fine late 80's to early 90's model with no need to wear a haz-mat suit to use. or for a couple of k's, find a vintage model and fix it up, doing all the same work that needs to be done to this one, for way less money. (if you have the skill set and desire, mostly desire, to do it, you will learn the skills right here.)

Good luck with it, either way. and again, welcome.
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You can find a nice older unit that has been well cared for for a lot less than the cost of refurbishing one of the flooded trailers. They look new, but the flooding has removed every benefit of having a new trailer.
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I wonder if there is any merit to buying and documenting the restoration

I have had quite some time to reflect on this subject. I still would have liked to have had enough $ to buy these trailers. I sincerely wish all eight of them were on my property. I very much would like to have a "newer style" airstream. I like the lines and size/shape of the new airstreams. I also like the idea of the challenge of rebuilding an airstream. I thought (and still think) these trailers represent the ultimate combination of these two streams of thought-a newly reconditioned NEW airstream. Wow. Custom built with labor of love into a 2008, 9, or 10 trailer. The best of all worlds as far as I can see. I will be travelling through Salt Lake this summer and if any of these trailers are still there will entertain the purchase thereof. I really thought the forum would rally around these trailers to ensure they would be taken care of and ultimately be included into the circle of 'streamers.

Assuming someone does buy these trailers...will they continue to be the AS's from the dark side? Will the owners of these horribly disfigured and ruined trailers be shunned from these pages, or accepted? There is another thread about a young man who purchased a damaged newer trailer and is attempting to rebuild it on a minor budget...He is one of my personal heroes for his service to this country, and his buy-in into a slice of the American Dream-a slice in the form of rebuilding a damaged Airstream trailer-one that was new, but wrecked during delivery. Would the purchase of one of these flooded trailers be any different than this example or different from removing critter infestations and ruined insulation, etc, etc from a 30-40 year old trailer? If the collective forum thought these trailers should have been scrapped, then we missed the opportunity to control the trailer's fate by not opting into my "idiotic" attempt at buying them. We collectively could have prevented these trailers from ever being restored...but do you think the amazingly talented people of this forum would have let that happen? I think not.

These trailers are not going to go away. They may not sell for a price low enough to vindicate how the collective forum feels about them, and they may not be the collective forum's cup of tea, but someone, sometime will come onto this forum and acknowledge their purchase of one of these trailers. Sooner, or later. I say we can have a moment of silence for them and then turn the collective genius of this forum into a mighty arm of restoration for them. Perhaps along the way, we will truly learn how badly these trailers were damaged and learn empirically what it takes to restore a flooded trailer. Who knows? Perhaps some famous Movie, TV or music star will ultimately end up with one of these trailers. At which point we can all ooh and ahh from a distance...who knows?
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Yes, wmarsha, there is always someone willing to drink the kool-aid. Doesn't mean that they would be wise to do so.

As for future value - suppose you or someone else are successful in buying "right" and then restoring it? How could your customer know that everything was done correctly in the areas that cannot be inspected? Would it be reasonable of them to demand a discount or should they just take the representations as fact? How much of a discount would it take before they would choose these rigs over another with a clearer history. I guess that's where you would need another buyer who feels that these are somehow noble and deserving of salvation.

As for how you would be welcomed, I can't see how the welcome would have anything to do with the pedigree of your Airstream. Just that when it comes time to sell it you will certainly be punished by the market.

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I suppose how to treat the flooded trailers depends on where you are coming from—save an Airstream no matter what the cost, or looking at it from a cost/benefit analysis. One of the costs hard to determine is the danger to your health by working and camping in it (i.e., can they really be cleaned?).

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