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Old 10-22-2009, 09:02 PM   #155
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Most esteemed friend, I have inherited 3 Airstream trailers with slight water damage. I will give you one of the trailers if you will deposit $25,000 in my bank account so I may get the others. The money is to help me get an export license and when the other two trailers arrive in Nigeria, I will refund your money and add another $25,000. This will be of great help to me as my late husband, a Nigerian prince, always loved Airstreams. Thank you for your help and I have some other deals for you when you have completed this one.
LOL...I get these in my spam folder all the time.
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Old 10-27-2009, 03:56 PM   #156
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have any more of our "soggy bottom boys" turned up anywhere else, yet?
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:21 AM   #157
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Does anyone know how to get my hands on one of the Woodstock flooded AS. I went shopping for one up there before the flood and just called another Camping World and found out about the situation.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:28 AM   #158
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Welcome trm1868!

Welcome to the forums trm1868, If you read the thread it looks like a company out of Utah purchased the trailers and has been trying to sell them on e-bay.

Maybe someone else out there has some current info on this.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:37 PM   #159
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Whoa,, thank you Airstream Knowledge Forum for saving a possible horrifying purchase experience. This guy and dealership is advertising on a local bulletin board for the dunked Airstream. My wife and I are retired and it looked like a killer deal. Unbelievable that they have not been issued Salvage titles.. Buyer be ware....

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Old 11-06-2009, 01:44 PM   #160
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Welcome to the forums Ducatiman, Thank you for the info and the link. I think you will find this community very knowledgeable and helpful.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:50 PM   #161
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KSL.com ad

If you look closely at picture #8 in the ad sequence (posted below), you can still see some water/mud stains on the curb side seat cushion. If the water reached that level in this coach, it would have submerged the non-ducted furnace and partially inundated the microwave as well as the bottom of the refrigerator.

According to all reports, these Georgia Airstreams had about 3' of water inside - in my world, that constitutes a bit more than "light water damage" as per their ad.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:45 PM   #162
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This ad is different from the first one. Different trailer too. Now it says "water damage" instead of "light water damage". They've cleaned this one up and the floor is still in. I think the last one was down to plywood so they must have take carpet out. I don't know whether the color difference on the cushion is water stain or shadows, but I'd bet on the former.

Maybe they sold the other one.

Ducatiman, a clean title may be a salvage title. Though the term is usually "clear" title, it simply means there are no liens against it.

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I only had a relatively short conversation with Darren (the salesperson) and he stated specifically that it was not a salvage title but I would have to sign something that stated I was aware of the damage. He also stated that it was in "as new" condition, that they had removed the belly pan and dried and cleaned the entire unit. I notified the AS dealership in Salt Lake to be "on alert" for possible warranty issues with these units. Sometimes bigger and deeper pockets than ours can correct the "wrongs" initiated by the Bernie Madoff types....
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Our previous discussion on the lack of salvage title leads to my guess what happened... An outside insurer exercises value vs repair cost judgements and when totaled it would sell at auction with a salvage title. The dealer in GA didn't carry insurance -- he so-called "self insured." Thus the title transfer doesn't go through either Georgia's or the buyer's state's insurance laws. This gives some sense why there was no salvage title.

Warranty? We don't need no steenkin' warranty... Some VINs are documented on our site and you'd better believe Jackson Center knows exactly which units these are. I can't believe warranty would ever apply to any of these units. Immerse the batteries, voltage converter, furnace, HW heater, water pump, fridge -- and we're not even talking about wood products covered with linoleum or formica laminate of some sort. It's been said that the air conditioners will be in perfect condition!

I commend those very wary of this deal. It's sad that the Nevada dealer overpaid so much. I can't believe the 2nd bid was anywhere close....
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Having been there & done that . . .

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An outside insurer exercises value vs repair cost judgements and when totaled it would sell at auction with a salvage title. The dealer in GA didn't carry insurance -- he so-called "self insured." Thus the title transfer doesn't go through either Georgia's or the buyer's state's insurance laws. This gives some sense why there was no salvage title.
Bob, your assessment is spot on - if there is a loss incurred on an insured vehicle, the insurance company determines IF the vehicle can be repaired. If the repairs for the damage exceed the value, then the insurance company determines the fair market value (FMV) on the vehicle as well as the salvage value based on the components.
When the insurance company settles a claim, they will pay out, to the owner, the FMV less the salvage value. As soon as the owner surrenders the vehicle's title to the insurance company, the insurance company will then own the vehicle and retitle it as "salvage." The owner then receives the amount of the salvage value.
However, if an insurance company is not involved, i.e. the owner was self-insured, it would not be retitled as "salvage." Therefore, there would be no record in the state registration/title transfer of any damage.

The same scenario would apply if there was damage to a vehicle and the owner did not go through their insurance to repair, i.e. paid for the repairs out of pocket. If a Carfax check was made on the vehicle with said repairs, there would be no record of the damage.

So, the dealer in Georgia probably sold these units at the auction without going through their insurance company, i.e. they transferred title directly to the highest bidder. Just as if anyone had a flood in their house & sold off the contents at a yard sale.
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Yes, you also don't see Carfax reports on former rental cars. Rental companies handle these internally without an outside insurance company.
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Is it just me or does that Safari in the ksl ad look like it also has some significant damage on the street-side. Like a scuff on the beltline about midway back, and a dent right before the rear endcap?
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IT's hard to tell from the only picture of that side. It might just be the sun reflecting off the trailer.
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