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Old 01-22-2014, 08:33 PM   #15
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While the fresh tank is only 23 gallons, I carry a flat 50 ft hose so I can hook up to water at a campground without having to move the trailer. Along with my fresh water hose, which is 25 ft, total 75. We have dry camped for 10 days last summer using water wisely. We use the facilities for showers and restroom.
We have to save water living in so calif where we haven't had rain in a long time. We extend our usage when we camp as well.
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:38 PM   #16
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I bought a 2013 Flying Cloud 20ft. My wife preferred the kitchen having a good layout and this was having something we could enjoy for a few years. If we both really enjoy it we can always get a larger one down the road. Consider your tow vehicle though regardless of your trailer length. My previous truck had an 18 gal tank. The small tank results in short rides before refueling and that gets old.
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Old 01-29-2014, 10:54 PM   #17
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In my short years of 'Streaming and owning a few Airstreams, I've never heard, "I bought too big" but rather, "I wish I bought bigger." Only you can take into consideration how often you'll be out in your Airstream, how long your trips will be, any family pets coming along and allow for room, where you'll be hanging your hat (state parks, resorts, boon docking), and, of course, your pocket book. On the plus side you are picking the best trailer brand, IMHO. Good luck with your decision and post photos when you can!
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:59 PM   #18
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Best bang for the $$ ! However, they are one of the hardest models to find on the used market ... I miss our FC20; wife prefers queen size bed ... and access to it is easier in what we now have.
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Old 01-30-2014, 03:26 AM   #19
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Hi Belbein

Just a couple of thoughts for you, your Tachoma will tow a 23' better than it tows a 20' the power demands are the same and the 23D is more stable just becasue the balance is better. The length difference is not very much.

My wife and I took a 23D to Texas for 3 weeks and quite enjoyed using it which is something considering we usually use a 30 or 34. The Bathroom layout did not cause any issues. On a rainy day the liveabilty is much better than the 20. The window layout is much nicer as well which makes the 23D feel much larger than it is.

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Old 01-30-2014, 05:36 AM   #20
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Hi,

I upgraded to my 2008 20' safari SE from a 19' Bambi and the difference is just amazing. I think the 20' is perfect if you prefer to spend time outside rather than inside. We much prefer to sit on our chairs outside soaking in the location we are at than lounge in the airstream. If all you are going to do is lounge inside the airstream why not stay home?

For us the large galley, roomy bathroom and bed size work perfectly. We can fit it just about anywhere, even in most sites designated for tents only.

One axle means less maintenance, and the 5,000 weight rating means we can tow with most SUVs without having to get a large truck. My only wish was that it had bigger tanks that would allow for longer boon docking. However, what I do is carry a couple of 7 gallon tanks of water and with the garden hose cap adapter for the dump valves we are able to empty our grey water tank in the woods easily when the location allows it.

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Old 01-30-2014, 06:00 AM   #21
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We have a 2013, 20' FC. We did not want a large trailer. For a trailer this size the bathroom space is more than adequate. The tank capacities are ok. The kitchen size and counter space are just fine. The bed is small so we use the dinette. In a trailer this size you can expect to use the bed for lounge space. With a few extra cushions you can lean against the outer wall to face the TV better and be more comfortable. All in all it is relatively comfortable for the two of us.
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:09 AM   #22
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Thoughts about Airstream 20'

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Old 02-13-2014, 01:16 PM   #23
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Hi Joe,
Just joined up a couple days ago. I've been looking for 20-23ft, but both my wife and I are 6ft. We are planing a retirement 2 mo trip this coming Sept-Oct. hitting some National Parks and some friends and relatives, so it won't be a full timer. I have a 2002 chev Tahoe w/ tow pkg.
Through your experience, does this seem workable.

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Old 02-13-2014, 04:35 PM   #24
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I just went through this within the last 2 months, and I did it backasswards. So let me tell you what I should have done.

1. FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR REAL TOWING CAPACITY IS. DO THIS FIRST. If you start with the trailer first, then you're going to fall in love with something and either commit yourself to something that will require a new tow vehicle, or worse: decide that you can safely tow at 100% capacity. You need to figure actual tow capacity, which is GCVWR, which includes trailer weight and Truck weight. Then you need to add some amount for "stuff". I used a figure of around 1700 lbs, but depending on whether you go with a lot of stuff, or a little, you may need more or less.
Note: GCVWR may not be in your owner's manual. You may have to call the manufacturer, but they should be glad to tell you. And by the way, you need to check your "towing package" components to make sure you have them all. (I know you don't own a Tacoma, but there's a very good discussion over at the Tacoma owners site about towing--very informative and very helpful. If I can find it, I'll post the link.)
2. Decide what your weight limit is. I figured that I didn't want to go above 85% of my GCVWR ... but everyone disagrees on this, and this is like arguing whether if Batman fought Superman, who would win. You have to decide on your own what your risk level is. (Batman wins, because Robin will get some licks in while Superman isn't looking.)
3. Pull the specs off the Airstream site. Pick out several trailers that look good to you. (These several trailers are going to have to go in your calculation in paragraph 1, above.)
4. Go to an RV show. LIVE in the RV. Lay down on the bunks. Pretend to go to the bathroom. Pretend to cook while your significant other and dogs are playing tag around your feet. The salesmen won't like it, but screw'em. You're about to drop $50,000 plus. They can deal with you and your wife (taking your shoes off and) laying on the bed. Think about how these things get parked in state and national parks, and whether you want to look up from your bed at a road, or at scenery; whether you can sit in the dinette while someone cooks; if there's room to play your accordion while someone else is playing solitaire....
5. Make sure to add some amount for parking it, if you're not going to be able to store it on your property, or aren't selling your house and heading off.
6. Check more than one dealer on prices. These seem to be discounted by 10% to 15% pretty easily. But to get to a serious discount, you're going to have to shop.
7. Check used only after you've spent time in the new ones, and several of them. You're going to find once you pretend to live in one that there are some things that are less important than you thought, and some things are more important. I understand that I'm in for the same lesson, but I'll have to apply it when I upgrade to another trailer, because I've already married one of these things. If you have questions ...
8. Ask questions, here, lots of questions. I've asked a lot of silly questions and not been snarked once.

There are a couple of dealers that I dealt with that I thought were really good and really fair. If you contact me privately, I'll share the names. Though they are not on the W. Coast--and you have a wealth of Airstream dealers there.
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Old 04-07-2014, 05:38 AM   #25
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We have a 2014 20 foot Flying Cloud and realized the the bed just is not big enough for my wife and I; I am 6'2" and the curve design makes it very difficult to be comfortable. Any ideas, other than of course trading it in for a larger model? Thank you...
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:46 AM   #26
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We have a 2014 20 foot Flying Cloud and realized the the bed just is not big enough for my wife and I; I am 6'2" and the curve design makes it very difficult to be comfortable. Any ideas, other than of course trading it in for a larger model? Thank you...
We had a 2007 20'. I'm a couple inches shorter than you and can't say I was uncomfortable once in the bed, but I sleep on the outside where the curve did not interfere. We also use sleep wedges to raise our upper body, and that allowed the pillow to sit partially on the compartment lid making for a longer bed. Maybe you could add a thick mattress topper to utilize the compartment lids effectively lengthening the bed.
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:44 AM   #27
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We have a 2014 20 foot Flying Cloud and realized the the bed just is not big enough for my wife and I; I am 6'2" and the curve design makes it very difficult to be comfortable. Any ideas, other than of course trading it in for a larger model? Thank you...
You could probably remove the hamper at the foot of the bed and replace the mattress with one that fills in that space. I am guessing that would add up to 8" to the length of the bed.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:15 AM   #28
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We have a 2013, 20' FC. I sleep on the front bed and we fold the dinette down into a bed for my wife. We both sleep comfortably that way. A minor PITA, yes but we did not want a larger trailer. All the other amenities work for us.
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