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Old 02-25-2011, 08:43 PM   #15
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The "title" thing still makes me suspicious about this whole thing. In Florida the original title to a vehicle is issued when a Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin is presented to the Division of Motor Vehicles in Tallahassee by a licensed dealer. If there is a Florida title for this Airstream already in existence, it is not a new vehicle as far as the state is concerned.

Also, as someone already advised, you are going to need to replace all the tires on this trailer. To not do so would be potentially unsafe. It does not matter that these tires were never used.

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Old 02-25-2011, 08:45 PM   #16
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I am still looking at the "new" 2005. It is at an authorized Airstream service center that used to be a dealership. It appears that they have hit hard times and stopped taking in new inventory several years ago. This unit is the last of their "new" product.

The bank financed the unit either at the time that the dealership acquired it from Jackson Center or a few years later when the business got into trouble. From the research that I have done (with Jackson Center) this unite has never been titled. (I will check with the area DMV's next week)

My fiance spoke to the loan officer at the bank where the title is being held to insure that they indeed did have it and that the offer that we made the "dealer" would release the title.

From speaking with the bank, everything seems to be in order. But the dealer got offended when my fiance suggested that he go to the bank with them (and our cashier's check) to get the title and that was kinda of a red flag... I just wanted to make sure that we were not out of line for asking to either wire the money directly to the bank and pick up the title ourselves or go to the bank with them and the cashier's check to get the title.

Hopefully that is a little more clear.
At an absolute minimum, if there is a lien on the trailer (and thus a divided interest in it) the cashier's check should be made out to the (former) dealer and the lienholding bank. It seems like an odd situation, and the dealer should be flexible about it. If he's really "offended," he may owe the bank for significantly more than the lien on this trailer and knows that the bank would keep more of your check than he wants them to.
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the questions contained in this thread are somewhat peculiar.

perhaps it's just total newbie/naivete, but one never knows in cyber space.

IF the unit is a 2005 it's approaching 7 years old.

of course it could be an 04 or 06, since "model year" doesn't exactly match production year.

the vin number OR the street side plate can confirm this.

a call to j/c with the vin can too.

'book values' are pretty useless for a/s...

there are 6-8 LINKED threads on the topic here...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f349...tml#post869379

they produce so few and the range is such,

that a "reasonable" selling price may vary 5-10,000$ depending on location, even 4 new.

add 2 that the fact that 05 units really VARY a lot.

1st half of the year the trailers were equipped differently than last half of the year.

there was also a 5-9% price increase (msrp) during the 05 model year.

a similar question here deals with that variation some...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f349...rio-60071.html

and last year/this time some1else had pretty much the same question as the op here...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f349...ock-61315.html
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buying...

IF the seller/location/shop is flaky/skanky/fishy/crooked or seems very ON the sly...

SKIP IT, move on, find something else.

BUT most large $ items like this when NEW are generally 'owned by the finance company' or manufacturer...

so the former dealer/now service shop has always had "paper" on this unit.

the nature of that paper may have changed, but WHO CARES?

folks get wrapped up in convoluted stories while trying to buy...

stories that have NO bearing on the purchase or price.

sometimes this happens by accident but usually it's some1 TRYING to really really lowball...

the so called 'distress buy'.

condition of the TRAILER matters, not who's got the paper (except 4 private sales)

IF the unit has never been sold "retail" it hasn't been formally titled.

and the bank isn't gonna "give" you the title.

that's not how it works.
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ever purchased a new car?

you pay (or finance) then fill out paper, register it, insure it and APPLY for a title.

which typically arrives 2 weeks or more AFTER the purchase...

the seller provides a sales contract, which is YOUR proof of purchase (ownership document)

but that's not a title.
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if this is a florida resident, registering IN florida read here...

Florida DHSMV - FAQs on Getting a Hassle Free Title
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it's entirely understandable that the SELLER might be miffed at the buyer wanting 2 go 2 the bank...

it's a sloppy approach and virtually unheard of when purchasing new (untitled-registered) vehicles RETAIL.

the legally operating BUSINESS/seller has to collect taxes (if they apply) complete a sales transaction and misc other bits of paper.

banks don't normally do that stuff, except is specific cases (like a repo or estate thing)
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the 1st post sez nada had a "rather low value"...

we've got no idea what this means, nada (even if useless) has a DOLLAR amount.

is it a good deal or good value?

depends on whether u are buying, selling or hoping to TURN the unit and make money...

which is unlikely too happen (turning it 4 profit)
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finally there is the issue of insurance.

what PRICE will insurance cost.

what dollar VALUE will insurance use.

what sort of coverage do u wanna PAY 4.

4 example, u pay 25K for the trailer, book is 25k but the insurance company only sees it at 18K...

that means IF it is stolen or destroyed, you will NOT get another new OR used 05 as replacement.
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IF the ac/fridge/furnace and water heater have been idle for 7 years, that's an issue...

as are tires, hubs, brakes AND the axles.

water damage? are there leaks somewhere, combined with flo' humidity...

that's not good either.

what if ANYTHING has been in the fresh (drinking) water tank for 7 years?

there was a recall on some axles in late 04 and a fridge recall that spans 04-06...

and so on.

still lots of homework to do, don't think there is something too good to be true going on here...

IF it is too good to be true, well it's not true...right?

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Old 02-25-2011, 09:02 PM   #18
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I am reading this again and am finding this whole thing really quite bizarre. Why has this trailer not been sold before now? That is a very very important question that I would want answered thoroughly and truthfully. There may be an explanation, but I would just want to know it and be able to verify it. Very strange indeed.
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:39 PM   #19
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ALMOST OURS!!!!! We have a contract and are going to pick her up on monday morning! I'll post pictures and more info as soon as we get her! Can't wait!!!!
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:48 PM   #20
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Good luck with your transaction! Take your time and look over everything carefully. Looking forward to pics!
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:27 PM   #21
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Make sure it was not one of these with the water stains or something similar.That is if it is a different year.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:03 AM   #22
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WE GOT IT!!!!!

We just left the dealership with a brand NEW 2005 Safari Bunkhouse!!!!!

Pictures will be posted tonight!!!
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Old 03-22-2011, 07:27 AM   #24
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Here are some pictures of our Brand New 2005 Bunkhouse. (We bought it NEW, it sat on the lot for 7 years!!!!)
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Congratulations on your new baby! Get out there and enjoy her. Have many great Airstream adventures and safe travels.
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Killer score! What's the plan for the first road trip?
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Fantastic! After waiting 7 years, your Airstream has a lot of good times stored up ready to go! You'll have a cool campfire story too.
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