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Old 07-03-2007, 12:09 AM   #15
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:30 AM   #16
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Primarily they are so expensive because I have one and everyone wants to be like Mike! Ha Ha, really it is supply and demand that dictates price.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:57 AM   #17
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10 years ago we looked at a Caravele being sold by a private owner.

Good shape and the price was 5K. We later saw it on a RV consignment lot and the price went to 6.500 but didn't sell. A couple years later we, by chance saw the unit pulling into a site at Allegany State Park in New York state. An American from Buffalo bought the Caravele from the Canadian owner, a private buy.

We eventually found a 23' that is what we wanted. The dual axle was more disireable for stable towing and the extra room was best for us. The extra weight was not an issue as the aerodynamic Airstream is such an easy tow.
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Fred, help me out here, but as I recall there were something just over 240 Bambi 16s produced between the Jackson Center and Los Angeles plants from 1961 to 1963. There were far fewer of the 17' '64 Bambi IIs produced. The 17' Caravel was produced in limited numbers from '65 to '67 based on the Bambi II shell, but with a different interior. '68 was a transition year and from '68-'71 or so they built the 18' Caravels. I've never seen any production numbers or even reasonable guesses on either the '65-67 or '68-'71 Caravels, but there weren't many produced compared to the larger trailers. All of the '60s and '70s vintage sub-21' trailers are pretty rare, and are commanding premium prices now.

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Old 07-03-2007, 07:06 AM   #19
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The 17' Caravel was produced in limited numbers from '65 to '67 based on the Bambi II shell, but with a different interior.
How many 65 Caravels, the highest serial # for Ohio I have captured is JO175816 (Ohio started at seq#500 that year for “double beds”), and California is SO175207. So that makes it at least 316 and 207 for the two factories. So, I’d say between 550 and 600.

It wasn't until 1969 did Airstream assign each trailer a unique 3 digit sequence #.
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Old 07-03-2007, 07:25 AM   #20
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I am fortunate to have two of the previously mentioned units. I have a 1964 Bambi II 17' that I have owned since 1984 and a 1971 Caravel 18' I purchased in December '06. True, they are not units to own if you want to be left alone at the campground. But, I don't mind giving tours. I love to talk AS.
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Old 07-03-2007, 07:52 AM   #21
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Oh yes they do get attention all right both in the campground and in my yard. I have had people stop to see my Caravel and Safari but never my 30 ft Limited.. I would like to have a 18 ft caravel also. I think they are pretty nice looking rigs. My ser. # is J O175683 Ralph
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:55 AM   #22
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Because Trade Wind owners arent letting go of the most desireable units
Ditto with Flying Clouds .

(I just couldn't help myself...... )

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Old 07-03-2007, 12:01 PM   #23
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Well what do ya know. The west coasters are now getting out of bed.. Morning gang... Opps its afternoon here..LOL
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:56 PM   #24
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Fred, help me out here, but as I recall there were something just over 240 Bambi 16s produced between the Jackson Center and Los Angeles plants from 1961 to 1963. There were far fewer of the 17' '64 Bambi IIs produced. The 17' Caravel was produced in limited numbers from '65 to '67 based on the Bambi II shell, but with a different interior. '68 was a transition year and from '68-'71 or so they built the 18' Caravels. I've never seen any production numbers or even reasonable guesses on either the '65-67 or '68-'71 Caravels, but there weren't many produced compared to the larger trailers. All of the '60s and '70s vintage sub-21' trailers are pretty rare, and are commanding premium prices now. Roger
Hi Roger:

To my best knoweldge, Airstream has never released production figures by year and model, so we don't know how many were produced. I have beginning Bambi serial numbers for many years, but no ending serial numbers, so I cannot calculate annual production numbers.

The 16' Bambi was a 1961 mid-year introduction, but I don't have the beginning Bambi serial numbers for 1961, only the beginning serial number for 1962 and 1963. How many were made in 1961? The beginning serial number for the 1964 Bambi II is a different format than the beginning serial number for the 1963 Bambi, so I cannot calculate the difference between them to estimate 1963 production. California Bambi serial numbers may be continuous from year to year, but I'm missing the first 1961 serial numbers for each plant so begin with 1962 Bambi data. The Ohio plant "zeroed out" Bambi serial numbers for each year at "101", so we don't have any continuous serial numbers from which to estimate annual production. The best estimate of Bambi and other trailer production comes from gathering serial numbers from existing trailers.

I don't have production figures for any Caravels from 1965 to the mid 1970s. But they tended to be limited production models.

Another possible reason the short trailers command higher prices is they come up for sale less often than longer trailers. When someone buys a longer trailer for longer trips or full timing, its easier to keep the short trailer as a second or weekend trailer. There are probably more people with short and long trailers than with two or more long trailers. Combine that with lower production numbers and the absence of short trailer production for 25 +- years, and the higher prices are justified.

On the most recent VAP podcast, RJ Dial said he has been collecting Airstream serial numbers for years, and there were far more Bambis produced than anyone thought. He expects to release his production estimate figures later this year. Sorry I can't be of more help to you.
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:41 PM   #25
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Check out the small RV in Sundance Catalog - she is a beauty and pricey

This is a nice little trailer with nice features that you used to be able to build by ordering plans. Many of us dont have the skills but to pay $24k is a bit steep. Looks great!

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Wow! $24k for a teardrop?! You might as well hold out for a Caravel or Bambi and have a bathroom included
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:26 PM   #27
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I knew there had to be more to it than the size...thanks for all the info....
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Old 07-03-2007, 06:44 PM   #28
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