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Old 11-12-2007, 01:06 AM   #15
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wet floor

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I was able to pull the carpet back about a ft at the very rear of the trailer and it appeared to be fresh water on the floor just below the rear window on the street side. The dealer said they had just washed the trailer that day. I'm just don't know yet how long the leak has been there. The ice pick idea is a great one. I will check tomorrow. I am hoping it is coming in from a leak around the beltline.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:12 AM   #16
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The dealer has expressed the desire to move this trailer because of the season and the fact that they sell other brands.
I gave him what I thought was a low ball offer of 10,000 and he countered with 12,000 and this is where we left it. I have to let him know tomorrow.
So do you think I am in the ball park?
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:26 AM   #17
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wayne...

it could be at the beltline,

but more likely it's a window or hatch or other temporary sealed opening with a dry gasket or poor fitting...

the ice pick will find floor rot, just don't pull it out and scare anyone!

10-12k$ seems reasonable,

especially if everything big works, the tires are recent, the brakes up to par, all electrical checks out, batteries fresh, and the bearings recently packed....

does it have a full awning package or just patio shade? did you unroll 'em?

so i'd take a check list and go over all the systems....

still 12k might find a lot of buyers interested, as is....

i'm sure your realize 6 tires/wheels/brakes/hubs is 1/3 more in basic maintenance and replacements...

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your mileage might drop a little in stopngo, or up mountain passes

but in most constant speed highway driving there shouldn't be much difference.

34s are cool!
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:33 AM   #18
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6 of everything

I do realize it has a lot of hidden surprises but it is also a very big trailer and "thats why" I want to get it. Thanks for the help.
I will let you know how it goes.
wayne

About the awnings...All the way around on every window. The dealer said he would go through all the systems with me before we made the deal.
PS..My teenage son says your avatar is the best. FWIW
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a teenager with good taste and a keen eye, no doubt!

the full awning package is really nice to have and 2-4k$ of stuff..

another thought about the wetness...

IF it were long standing or a recurrent problem, one would expect other clues..

like mold, carpet color changes, stains and that recognizable dampness 'smell' ...


good luck with the purchase and don't forget the camera!

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Old 11-13-2007, 12:47 AM   #20
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So I took the plunge

I went by today and bought the 34 excella 1000 and I am "so jacked".
Thats how my teenagers describe excitement.
Regarding the leak, the dealer said he would fix it to my satisfaction.
I bargained with him a little and he came down another 250.00 so I got it for less than 12k. I feel good about it.
We are going over all the systems later this week after they repack the bearings and check out the brakes and clean the interior.
The dealer had a list of all the items they inspected and everything checked out or was repaired. I am going to pick it up next Wednesday.
I will take some pics and post them.
Thanks all, for the help and encouragement.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:24 AM   #21
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Congratulations! Hope everything from here on goes well. A couple of observations from my experience: 1) My Limited looks like it has leprosy. The clearcoat is horrid. From what I've read in the Forum it is a common issue, even for the very late models (seems as though Jackson Center could get it right after so many years). If I get done with what I have planned for my house re-do I may get the courage to tackle the clearcoat issue next spring. 2) If your 34ft has a bedroom second air conditioner the wet spot could be coming from a plugged or damaged drip hose (it runs down just ahead of the street-side bedroom window. Also check the condensation drip pan. Mine was seriously damaged by the installer. I finally got serious about fixing it and applied some kind of glop to the cracks. They seem to be holding (in mine the drip pan damage caused a wet bed, not a wet floor). 3) I almost forgot this one. Three years ago my wife stepped on sopping wet carpet as she made the bed. Turned out to be the Sureflo water pressure regulator/city water connector (at street-side). I hadn't drained it completely when I winterized the trailer the previous fall and it froze up and cracked. It wasn't hard to replace.

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Old 11-13-2007, 11:14 AM   #22
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Check the Potty too

My '92 34' developed a fresh water leak from the flush valve cover plate of the original Thetford toilet, which resulted in first the floor and then finally the carpet becoming soaked (that's when I discovered it).

My response was to rip out that plastic toilet and the carpet and replace it with vinyl flooring and a SeaLand Traveller Lite toilet and I'm completely happy with the finished result.

I did have to run a small electric heater in the bathroom continuously for about a week to dry the floor out but that was all since luckily I found the leak before rot developed.
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I went by today and bought the 34 excella 1000 and I am "so jacked".
Thats how my teenagers describe excitement.
Regarding the leak, the dealer said he would fix it to my satisfaction.
I bargained with him a little and he came down another 250.00 so I got it for less than 12k. I feel good about it.
We are going over all the systems later this week after they repack the bearings and check out the brakes and clean the interior.
The dealer had a list of all the items they inspected and everything checked out or was repaired. I am going to pick it up next Wednesday.
I will take some pics and post them.
Thanks all, for the help and encouragement.
Wayne
Congratulations on your purchase! If the tires are not very recent, I would replace them now ( or at least both rear tires). When I bought my 34'er several years ago, I didn't and was very sorry.

Here is my tale of woe: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...tion-2641.html
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:23 PM   #24
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new, to us, trailer

Went by the trailer today and took a few pics to post.
Don't know whether we will keep the carpet as it is pretty dirty.
Everything else in the trailer looks good except a small crack in the interior
end cap just above the storage cabinet. I thought I took a picture of it
but I guess not. It looks like the cabinet has slid outward away from the interior wall and this forced the crack in the plastic head liner.
Any thoughts about how to fix this short of replacing the whole upper end cap.
Thanks in advance
Ps I think the pink recliner's gotta go too
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hi wayne...

that looks like a GREAT find, really a nice looking unit.

there are a couple of threads on repairing those inner end caps...

i don't think replacements aren't available.

i'd suggest renting a steamcleaner thing and going over every interior surface...

including ceiling, carpet, bath, galley and so on...

a friend did that with his new/old unit and everything lightened a couple of shades...

and smelled better without cleaning agents, and of course was clean.

don't be hasty with the recliner, re-cover it!

u done good!

cheers
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:16 PM   #26
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Cleaning

2air,
Great thought on the steam cleaning. Never tried it but it
makes sense. I will check out threads for ideas on repair.
Laura is elated with the dinette and extra kitchen room. The Fridge
even seems bigger than the one in our 31ft. WE couldn't be more excited.
I am going to explore some new axles though. She is really riding low.
I sort of expected this extra expense when I first checked out the trailer.
Thanks again for the suggestions,
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:20 PM   #27
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You must be the lucky new owner of the 92 that was at Wagers Trailer Sales. I called on it the day after it sold. What a small world.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:27 PM   #28
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Lucky?

Yes I am the new owner and I hope it was a good purchase.
I am still working with them on fixing the leak in the rear storage compartment. They seem cooperative but not very knowledgable.
WE will see how it goes.
BTW Tonight I saw an '88 34fter on Craigslist Portland if you are interested in this model of trailer.
Keep looking and you will find your dream trailer!!
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