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Old 06-18-2009, 12:19 PM   #15
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With the damage on the unit you are looking at, I would offer $20,000 for it if you really like it. The advantage of the Classic is that it has a 54 gal fresh water tank, 39 gal gray water tank and 30 gal black water tank. We have used ours dry camping for several days being conservative and the holding tanks worked real well.

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Thanks Dennis...If my memory serves me the hail damage is restricted to the read facing panels...and does not extend above the rear window. Do you know how many panels that would likely include? I assume there are 2 "corner" panels transitioning to each side...plus how many "flat" end panels?? I do not remember if the hail impacted the "corner" panels...or not. Obviously I would need to more carefully inspect the roof...but for now I am accepting his claim that the roof was not damaged

BTW...other than cosmetics it appears very useable...sb no impact other than appearance. I DO agree that might be OK short-run...but would "need" to fix long term...Tom R in Two Harbors, MN
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:47 PM   #16
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Tom, there is one flat panel below the rear window that also has the recessed area where the license plate is held and there are the two rounded corner panels. Since mine has twin beds, I am not exactly sure if yours would be the same. Mine has the trunk door on the back in the lower part of the back panel.

It seems strange that the lower area is the only part with hail damage unless it was stored under a roof with the back end exposed at the dealer.

Good luck with it.

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Old 06-18-2009, 06:38 PM   #17
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Valuation question

Hey Tomr, very interesting situation you have here. This could be a very good deal for you but since you said you may want to sell or trade in the near future,I would suggest you really do some homework.
IMHO, for valuation, I would see what the private sellers are selling the 05 Classics for in your area. Take the trailer or at least some very detailed photos of the damage to a dealer or repair shop and try to get a worst case estimate of what it costs to fix. Subtract that and it will get you close to value. Also, I would subtract something for the aggravation of dealing with getting it fixed.
If like Gene said it may have a salvage title, that brings up a whole different can of worms. Ask to see the title. If it is salvage, talk to bank and insurance company to see what the issues are in getting financing and insurance. If financing is not available, it would reduce the folks you would have as potential buyers and you may find yourself in something that is hard to sell like the current owners.
One thing about Airstreams, there are a lot bought and sold every day. This one could be the "one" or you may find something else down the road. Good luck and let us know how this comes out.
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Old 06-18-2009, 07:12 PM   #18
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I don't think I said it might have a salvage title. Maybe I rote slopy. I can't see how less than $5,000 worth of damage would total a trailer that had a retail more than 10 times that. Anyway you can ask the seller.

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Old 06-19-2009, 08:24 AM   #19
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My humble apology Gene for misquoting you. I picked up the salvage title issue from Bob.
I read sloppy.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:58 AM   #20
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Tom R,
I was wondering if the hail damage would cause displacement of exterior panel seams that would result in a leak issue at a later date. I've only had my 25' Safari for a brief time but love it. Best to you.
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:50 PM   #21
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We have the Classic 25 with queen bed in back and couch in front, no table. Like others have stated, it is more of a personal thing as to what you want. We had looked at all the models and decided that one, it had to be a 25 in size and 2, it had to have the queen with no table. It is just the 2 of us and we really like this lay out. I mounted an LCD bracket on the wall by the ref. and another one on the wall by the closet. This way I only have the one tv that can be mounted either place and comes off for towing. You really need to just go look at them and decide for yourself what floats your boat

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Old 06-23-2009, 10:51 AM   #22
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We have the same floor plan but in the Safari LS model. Like you, just the two of us and it works great for us. What process did you use when you mounted your two LCD brackets, did you have to remove the fridge? I've been thinking about doing the same thing and need some direction.
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We have the same floor plan but in the Safari LS model. Like you, just the two of us and it works great for us. What process did you use when you mounted your two LCD brackets, did you have to remove the fridge? I've been thinking about doing the same thing and need some direction.
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I did not take the fridge out. I did make a plate that the TV bracket bolts to and then have the larger plate screw into the wall. This way I am spreading the load out more and also am able to use larger screws to go into the wall. This has worked for the past yr. with no problems. I would NOT do it this way if you intend to leave the TV mounted while traveling. That puts a heck of a lot more load onto it. The bracket in the bedroom is a self made one. The company that has the whole mounting arm with wall bracket would not just sell the wall bracket alone.

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Old 06-23-2009, 02:21 PM   #24
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Tom, did you decide what to do?

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Old 06-23-2009, 03:06 PM   #25
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Hope you dont mind us butting in.

We have the traditional layout, i.e. queen bed and front couch. This TV layout works for us.

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Hi Gene...After the good input from this thread I have decided to let it "rest" for awhile. I know that I like things "nice" and would have a problem with the damage...which would be expensive to repair with a trip to Jackson. I think the $26,500 plus repair costs would be more than I want to invest in a trailer and not sure it would be a "good as new" even after repaired.

My wife and I are leaving for a road trip to St John, New Brunswick on Sunday...after attending our 40 year old daughter's college graduation. She finally took it seriously and managed a 3.98 GPA while working fulltime and taking care of three boys as a divorced mom...we're pretty proud .

I appreaciated all the input on this thread. In addition to the comments about repairs, costs and value...I learned a lot about floorplans and different personal preferances...as well as good info on the 25' floorplan choices. Just might not "need" more than 25'...

I will likely revisit when we return.

I look forward to you next trip "blog"...your (and other) trip reports really keep my interest high ...Thanks...Tom R in Two Harbors

P.S. "Doug and Maggie" are passing through Two Harbors later in July and we hope to get a chance to meet and talk ASs when they are in our neighborhood...TMR
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Sounds like you're doing what's best for you. It sure is hard to want one and keep waiting for the right one to show up.

I hope you enjoy the reversing falls.

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We have this floorplan in ours and love it. My wife and I each have tables for our respective laptops. We both sit on the couch. There's plenty of storage under the Queen bed (aand it is accessible from the outside). We put a flatscreen TV on the credenza.

Complaints? My wife would appreciate a little more counter space. I would appreciate a little more storage space. But who wouldn't? Really, the design is a very "livable" floorplan that seems intuitive.

With regard to the side-mounted Queen, I see advantages and disadvantages. But recently my wife said that IF we were decking out a 30-footer to our wishes, she would prefer a side-mounted Queen. (I know Airstream doesn't build 'em this way...but maybe they should.) The reason is that the side-mounting buys you a couple extra feet of space lengthwise.

What works for some may not work for others, but this floorplan has been good to us.
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