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01-20-2017, 02:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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st. ann
, Missouri
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1994 Excella 1000 selling price
Hello-
I have a 30 ft. 1994 Excella 1000 that I'm in he process of selling.
How can I determine an asking price. the RV NADA is a joke. It list this Airstream below $4,000
Updates:
Recent upgrades
Dometic refrigerator
Furnace blower motor
Gas regulator 6 gallon Atwood water heater
Aqua Magic V foot pedal flush toilet
300 watt solar unit.
Set of tires with less than 3000 miles
Repacked wheel bearings
Replaced tinted plexi rock guard.
New custom curtains for front section.
Thank you,
Mark Williams
St. Louis, MO
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01-20-2017, 04:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
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12 to 22k would be my guess based on its condition.
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01-20-2017, 05:02 PM
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Rivets?
1992 29' Excella
2010 22' Interstate
Van By The River
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Softshell
How can I determine an asking price. the RV NADA is a joke. It list this Airstream below $4,000
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Yep, that's the age-old question...
Be sure to check Airstream Classifieds here on Air Forums. Also look at Craigslist to see what people are asking. Of course, asking price is not necessarily selling price.
I agree with CRH - the price is probably in the mid teens to low 20's. We have a 1992, 29' Classic and my seat of the pants feel was mid teens for our trailer. However, based on recent asking prices I've seen on Airstream Classifieds the price may be high teens to low 20's.
Good Luck
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Lucius and Danielle
1992 29' Excella Classic / 2010 Interstate
2005 Chevrolet Suburban K2500 8.1L
2018 GMC Sierra K1500 SLT, 6.2L, Max Trailering
Got a cooped-up feeling, gotta get out of town, got those Airstream campin' blues...
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01-21-2017, 06:08 AM
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2 Rivet Member
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st. ann
, Missouri
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Thank you for responding to my question.
I have an additional question. The RV NADA list 30 Foot 1994 Excellas value at around $4,000. If the Excella would sell between $12 and $20k on the open market why wouldn't the insurance companies cover the trailer within these price ranges instead of using the NADA as their method of establishing a value.
Thanks!
Mark
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01-21-2017, 09:23 AM
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Rivets?
1992 29' Excella
2010 22' Interstate
Van By The River
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,361
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Hmmm... good point about insurance coverage. Not sure why they don't reflect more accurate numbers.
We specifically requested our insurance agent to cover us for a "stated value" that was much higher than the NADA value at the time.
Based on recent asking prices and allowing some discount for actual selling price it looks like we need to increase the stated value for our trailer.
I don't know about other RV brands but Airstream prices/values seem to be underestimated by NADA, KBB and other sources.
COPI (Cars Of Particular Interest) may publish information about RVs. I used them to value on our 1966 El Camino and our 1984 Jeep CJ-7, both of which were way underestimated by NADA type reference guides.
If insurance protection is your concern you can always hire a professional appraiser - costs a few hundred dollars but might be helpful to establish a fair value.
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Lucius and Danielle
1992 29' Excella Classic / 2010 Interstate
2005 Chevrolet Suburban K2500 8.1L
2018 GMC Sierra K1500 SLT, 6.2L, Max Trailering
Got a cooped-up feeling, gotta get out of town, got those Airstream campin' blues...
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01-21-2017, 11:30 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
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Take your NADA blue book and put it in your bathroom. If you like numbers it passes the time. Also good backup if you run out of TP.
It is harder to find a insurance company that will insure an older Airstream for what it is worth, if at all. What you need is an "agreed value" policy. Not too many companies do them. Check with FCIS. You will also need to have your AS appraised. You will need documentation of sale price, repairs, upgrades, maintainance. etc.
I bought my 93 34' Classic Excella 2 years ago for $20K. It was in excellent shape with a redone interior.
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01-21-2017, 11:35 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
Travelers Rest
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2010
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For older Airstreams that are in good to excellent conditions that you intend to keep and maintain, spend the $300 +/- for a certified Airstream appraiser, and give that to your insurance company. The term isn't "stated value" it is "agreed value" and it needs to be stated as "agreed value" in the boilerplate of the insurance policy text. If your insurance company won't do it, shop around until you get one that does. Recommendations can be made if you want. If you are selling, the classified ads in the usual Airstream venues are a good guide, but with AS it isn't age, or length so much as condition, condition, condition. You have to convince the skeptical buyer that your Airstream is a great value at the price you are asking. How big of a hurry you are in also affects the price. My completely redone 1990 Excella 29' is "agreed value" insured for $33K and I wouldn't sell it for that amount. Good Luck.
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WBCCI 2456 Georgia Unit 32
1990 Excella 29' Centramatics
2016 GMC Sierra Crew Cab 2500 HD 4x4
6.6L Duramax + Allison, 3.73 axles
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01-21-2017, 11:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Burlington
, Ontario
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Don't really know anything about NADA, but wouldn't they use recent sale price info to set their values, or do they just use some sort of age based depreciation value applied equally to all trailers?
Anyone know how it works?
Brian
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Brian & Connie Mitchell
2005 Classic 30'
Hensley Arrow / Centramatics
2008 GMC Sierra SLT 2500HD,4x4,Crew Cab, Diesel, Leer cap.
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01-21-2017, 01:39 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1972 29' Ambassador
golden valley
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2015
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value
do you have any pictures?
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Mike and Laurie
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01-21-2017, 02:38 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1993 32' Excella
Woodburn
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2010
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You did not say a lot about the exterior or the air conditioner. If you AS was recently polished and clear coated that will enhance the value significantly. Also, what about awnings? You likely have a model worth somewhere in the low teens to low 20s. MOre information is needed to be more precise.
David Parker
1989 Dodge D-350
1993 Excello 1000
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01-21-2017, 04:16 PM
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Rivet Master
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Taos
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NADA is better for car values than RV values - you caught on to that right away. Nothing new in this saying - something is worth exactly what someone will actually pay for it. It looks like you have a good range of prices from other posters and, like anything, get a range set in your mind and start toward the top and be willing to negotiate within your range. There are buyers out there and I'd much rather be selling an Airstream than any other brand!
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01-22-2017, 05:56 AM
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2 Rivet Member
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st. ann
, Missouri
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Thanks again for your responses.
As far as insuring my Airstream I will need to speak with my agent in more detail. If an insurance company uses NADA as their pricing guideline we could all be in trouble. I live in the midwest an area prone to tornados and hail storms. I just want to be assured in the case of severe damage or complete loss my coverage would be enough to replace my Airstream with one of similar values based upon open market pricing not the NADA.
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01-23-2017, 07:45 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
Travelers Rest
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Softshell
Thanks again for your responses.
As far as insuring my Airstream I will need to speak with my agent in more detail. If an insurance company uses NADA as their pricing guideline we could all be in trouble. I live in the midwest an area prone to tornados and hail storms. I just want to be assured in the case of severe damage or complete loss my coverage would be enough to replace my Airstream with one of similar values based upon open market pricing not the NADA.
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The exact insurance term you need to INSIST on is "Agreed Value." And with that, somewhere clearly stated the $ amount of the Agreed Value.
This will probably cost you $300+/- from a certified Airstream appraiser. There are several groups of certification, IVAN being only one of them. My first insurer was State Farm, and after having them for two years I discovered that they would have used NADA or something similar, so I changed to another company which used a higher scale but didn't say Agreed Value, and when I had a claim I barely dodged a bullet. I then got a certified appraisal for Agreed Value, and went with still another company whose salesman understood I wanted Agreed Value, told me it was in the policy, and in emails confirmed it. But when I changed companies the following year, found out that the previous policy did not have agreed value or anything similar. I am now with Nationwide who used the Agreed Value appraisal and it is written in the text of the policy along with the dollar amount.
Some underwriters will only give Agreed Value if you have your Airstream in a locked garage, but not everyone has that luxury. Good Sam consultants can assist with getting Agreed Value, but you have to use that term and keep asking if that is going to be written in the text along with the dollar amount.
Only then will you be really insured with an Airstream more than a few years old. Good luck.
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WBCCI 2456 Georgia Unit 32
1990 Excella 29' Centramatics
2016 GMC Sierra Crew Cab 2500 HD 4x4
6.6L Duramax + Allison, 3.73 axles
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01-24-2017, 08:04 AM
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2 Rivet Member
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st. ann
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcasr
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The exact insurance term you need to INSIST on is "Agreed Value." And with that, somewhere clearly stated the $ amount of the Agreed Value.
This will probably cost you $300+/- from a certified Airstream appraiser. There are several groups of certification, IVAN being only one of them. My first insurer was State Farm, and after having them for two years I discovered that they would have used NADA or something similar, so I changed to another company which used a higher scale but didn't say Agreed Value, and when I had a claim I barely dodged a bullet. I then got a certified appraisal for Agreed Value, and went with still another company whose salesman understood I wanted Agreed Value, told me it was in the policy, and in emails confirmed it. But when I changed companies the following year, found out that the previous policy did not have agreed value or anything similar. I am now with Nationwide who used the Agreed Value appraisal and it is written in the text of the policy along with the dollar amount.
Some underwriters will only give Agreed Value if you have your Airstream in a locked garage, but not everyone has that luxury. Good Sam consultants can assist with getting Agreed Value, but you have to use that term and keep asking if that is going to be written in the text along with the dollar amount.
Only then will you be really insured with an Airstream more than a few years old. Good luck.
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Thank for the information.
I wonder how many folks actually have this done for their Airstream or any other RV?
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01-24-2017, 08:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 23' FB International
Woodstock
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2014
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I get an Agreed Value (25K) on my '96 for about $370 per year through AVIVA
JCW
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01-24-2017, 09:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Softshell
Thank for the information.
I wonder how many folks actually have this done for their Airstream or any other RV?
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My impression is most owners of restored vintage Airstreams more than 25 years old do. Less than 25 years old I am not sure.
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01-25-2017, 03:45 AM
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st. ann
, Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JCWDCW
I get an Agreed Value (25K) on my '96 for about $370 per year through AVIVA
JCW
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Were you required to have your Airstream appraised before the Agreed coverage? I've never heard of AVIVA.
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01-26-2017, 07:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 23' FB International
Woodstock
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,423
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Softshell
I thought AVIVA was an international company, but it appears it is Canadian.
My agreed to value is what I paid for the trailer...just told them what I paid and that is factored into my insurance rate. I actually get the insurance through an RV magazine company who partner with insurance agencies to get a "group" rate.
JCW
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