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Old 06-28-2010, 03:58 PM   #1
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Pardon the long message. Below is the copy from a Craigslist posting. I was wondering if someone could give me a feel for the value of this trailer. This would be my first Airstream and I am anything but an expert. The seller wants $15,100 for it and I feel that may be a reasonable amount considering the condition. There is a link at the bottom to view pics. Thanks in advance.
"I purchased this beautiful vintage Airstream last year (August, ‘09) to restore and roam the country. The first part of my plan is about 90% complete, but due to family obligations I will have to put my roaming plans on hold for another year.
The exterior was polished in December 2007 and the trailer was then put in a barn. I completed the exterior restoration by replacing the window and door weather seals; replacing the window hardware; replacing the window and door screens; updating the propane tank valves and regulator to current requirements; replacing one of the propane tanks with new; and replacing the front window rock guard. I also installed a new radio antenna and replaced the refrigerator exhaust chimney.
I am a nostalgic furniture builder/cabinet maker hobbyist, so I tackled the interior with the idea to maintain the original “feel” as closely as possible. Restoration completed to date includes: refinishing all cabinetry to the original walnut finish and adding three coats of polyurethane; rebuilding the refrigerator cabinetry; laying new “Pergo-style” plank flooring (I found the sub floor to be in excellent shape); removing the non-functioning original furnace (a Therm’x propane heater is mounted on the refrigerator cabinet); installing a new water heater; repairing/resealing all plumbing including the toilet; upholstering the front bench sofa/pull out twin bed and the side sofa/pull out twin bed; and more.
The refrigerator is a Dometic Americana Series that operates on 12V DC, 120V AC, or gas. The range/oven is an O’Keefe & Merritt Satellite 20 Series Gas Range. Light fixtures are dual 12V DC and 120V AC power. There is also a gas mantle light fixture in the main living area.
I live in the trailer at the present. It is completely road ready. To complete the restoration, I would replace the skylight (one just became available from Vintage Trailers); and replace the exhaust fan over the range top. Oh yes, I’d replace the “skid mark” sprayer beside the toilet…it has a mind of its own!"
This trailer is in Melissa, Texas, just north of Dallas and can be viewed at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hoffs_pictures/
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Old 06-28-2010, 04:10 PM   #2
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This price guide may help you. I would check to see if the seller has also replaced the axle.

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Old 06-28-2010, 05:11 PM   #3
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about 20 miles from me....stop by.

Tires? Battery? converter upgrade?, water pump? Axle? Note...tanks are not Worthingtons. Propane regulator? age of all appliances? Are windows glass...not replaced with Lexan. Seams sealed?
It's the "little" things that add up. The big things need no addition...they are already steep.
It sure does look nice,
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:49 PM   #4
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its a great looking trailer, the price guide is good, but also ask yourself, if you find a $1500 airstream on craigslist or on the side of the road, are you going to do all the work yourself, or have to hire someone? if you consider what many of those projects cost, including the newer appliances, having someone polish, the fabric work, rock guard etc it adds up fast. Axle is something to find out for sure as others have mentioned. I would also expect pretty new tires, and check for rot under the bathroom vanity, under the tub you can access through that area, and around the battery compartment.
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:13 PM   #5
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The Safari looks good. I found and started restoring a 65 Safari 1 year ago last month. Perhaps the following info will be helpful. All new appliances with new counter top and sink including stovetop, ref., and furnace. New premium cushions and fabric. New axle and wheels. Blackened all windows. New window seals. Custom Hunter Douglas blinds. New front rock guard. New Zip Dee Patio, curb side and rear awnings. New carpet. Most of plumbing including pump new. New fresh water tank. New Worthington 30 lb. tanks. Bathroom is still orginal. I did all the polishing at very great effort (not sure I would do it again). Total investment todate - $13,000.00+. This does not include orginal purchase price (was not much we got a great deal). I estimate that if my time was worth anything then I would consider doubling the price. Hope this info helps and good luck. It is a labor of love......Tim
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Old 06-29-2010, 10:37 AM   #6
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Thanks for the feedback. Very helpful. Can someone clarify what is meant by Worthingtons? I assume that is a brand of propane tank. Is that important functionally or just cosmetically? According to the current owner the tires do need replaced and the bearings were repacked about 3 years ago so that would need to be done. Axel does not appear to have been replaced, but he is having that and the brakes checked out by an RV mechanic locally. One section of the floor in the bathroom was soft and was replaced, but according to him, the rest of the floor was very solid and has been covered by new Pergo flooring. All appliances are not modern and may be original. All are functional and work well as he lives in the trailer full time. New water heater, new propane regulator, all systems checked by local Airstream dealer and are good to go, he says he has documentation to back this up. New front rock guard as well as new window hardware and seals. Not sure about the water pump or seam seals. I will check on that. Anything else you guys think I am missing or should ask? Thanks again
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